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	<description>reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against the low expectations of an ungodly culture.</description>
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		<title>by: Kazelxho</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-306679</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Sep 2008 17:16:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>by: Emma</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-295036</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I used to be upset that my parents wouldn't buy me a gaming system, but I recently borrowed a gane boy from a friend and i never did anything else but play. Now that I see how easy it is to become obsessed with it, i'm glad they didn't. If i'd gotten a game boy or an X-box or anything, then I wouldn't be reading as much  and I wouldn't be developping any interests, other than gaming.  

and yes. that pic is incredibly disturbing.</description>
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<p>and yes. that pic is incredibly disturbing.
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		<title>by: Jojo</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-274457</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 15:59:11 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Video games are sometimes a substitute for reality. You know, a 20something guy will feel better if he can vanquish night elfs by the dozen, even if he's incapable of providing for himself. Overcoming fantasy battles makes them feel like they can overcome the real ones. *LIE!* I have nothing against video games, but when 20 year old men start using them as an escape or as a substitute for what he really should be battling like oh I don't know....demons! it's not a worthy substitute. 
^^^ I'm not saying this because I believe it but because I've experienced it myself by escaping into books and movies and wishing all the time that it was me killing all the orcs or that it was me saving the princess or whatever.
Just don't let anything become your alternate reality. God has no substitute, and there's no replacement for the battles he wants you to fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Video games are sometimes a substitute for reality. You know, a 20something guy will feel better if he can vanquish night elfs by the dozen, even if he&#8217;s incapable of providing for himself. Overcoming fantasy battles makes them feel like they can overcome the real ones. *LIE!* I have nothing against video games, but when 20 year old men start using them as an escape or as a substitute for what he really should be battling like oh I don&#8217;t know&#8230;.demons! it&#8217;s not a worthy substitute.<br />
^^^ I&#8217;m not saying this because I believe it but because I&#8217;ve experienced it myself by escaping into books and movies and wishing all the time that it was me killing all the orcs or that it was me saving the princess or whatever.<br />
Just don&#8217;t let anything become your alternate reality. God has no substitute, and there&#8217;s no replacement for the battles he wants you to fight.
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		<title>by: Savannah</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-256272</link>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 21:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>1. I think that teens, as well as kids have way too much fun and not enough responsiblity.
It would be impossible to keep up that lifestyle and be a good parent of employee. They would be too busy with themselves.

4. I find the picture very creepy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. I think that teens, as well as kids have way too much fun and not enough responsiblity.<br />
It would be impossible to keep up that lifestyle and be a good parent of employee. They would be too busy with themselves.</p>
<p>4. I find the picture very creepy!
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		<title>by: kailey</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-241906</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 15:42:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>why are we all judging one another? isn't it useless if we are all judging one another its not like we are going to get any were. respect the other persons fellings. if they are wrong who is the greatest judge?(if you don't know the answere is God).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why are we all judging one another? isn&#8217;t it useless if we are all judging one another its not like we are going to get any were. respect the other persons fellings. if they are wrong who is the greatest judge?(if you don&#8217;t know the answere is God).
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		<title>by: kailey</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-240800</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 17:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>shane i agree with shane  i used to play on the computer about 24 hours a week now i only do it when i'm babbysitting or when i go on this website.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>shane i agree with shane  i used to play on the computer about 24 hours a week now i only do it when i&#8217;m babbysitting or when i go on this website.
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		<title>by: &#8220;Do Hard Things&#8221;: Wasting Time, Wasting Youth &#124; SISTERWISDOM</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-222956</link>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 13:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>[...] Some people manage to avoid acknowledging that truth their entire lives, and they are the ones who Alex and Brett describe on their blog as &amp;#8220; Peter Pans who shave.&amp;#8221; (This article they wrote describes more about &amp;#8220;adultescence.&amp;#8221;) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Some people manage to avoid acknowledging that truth their entire lives, and they are the ones who Alex and Brett describe on their blog as &#8220; Peter Pans who shave.&#8221; (This article they wrote describes more about &#8220;adultescence.&#8221;) [&#8230;]
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		<title>by: Shane H</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-205548</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Mar 2008 13:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I do not feel gaming is &quot;Bad&quot; or any thing.
I use to play 12 hrs a week and then I stepped back and thought for a second, Is this really how I want to spend my time all week? And I realized I wasn’t spending much time with the lord. So I gave it up pretty much, because I now play 2hrs a week usually.
So I just want to say watch how you spend your time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not feel gaming is &#8220;Bad&#8221; or any thing.<br />
I use to play 12 hrs a week and then I stepped back and thought for a second, Is this really how I want to spend my time all week? And I realized I wasn’t spending much time with the lord. So I gave it up pretty much, because I now play 2hrs a week usually.<br />
So I just want to say watch how you spend your time.
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		<title>by: MJ</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-182221</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 11:51:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-182221</guid>
					<description>Tabitha...

“This ranks among one of the most shocking and misguided statements I have read in recent memory.
Tell me, would YOU like to die doing something worse than useless? I personally would much prefer to face my Savior if I had been executed in a Communist country for preaching the gospel.
And it sounded alarmingly like you were advocating suicide.&quot;


How did you get advocating suicide from &quot;It was his time to die,&quot; God knows when we are going to die, and it might be when we decide to go crazy playing video games or when we just happen to be over sea's on a mission,  but its not what we were doing in the moment of our death that is going to matter, it's going to be the life we had led up to that point, And to answer your question. I want to stand before my lord with a life that has been *his* not my own, for longer than a quick mission trip to another country, I want my life to be a mission, whether here or over sea's.

Passing a judgment like advocating suicide was a bit too hasty, and would advise getting to know someone or at least holding back the comment until you can speak to them privately, before making such judgments.

My point was, that he made a choice, a bad, one, but a choice, God gave us free will as a gift, we should use it but WISELY but being imperfect humans, we don't always make the right choices. We should always strive to, but we don't always live up to it. This gentleman, made a choice that might not have been a good one, but does that make him a bad person? I think Christ will still accept him with open arms if he feels so inclined, I don't think our God is a God that will tell someone that he cant love them because they played video games for so long and that could have been doing better things with their time. If you watch movies all day and your parents come home and see that, do they still love you? Yes! They do! Because it's not just that moment that they base their love upon, its a life time, so you made a bad choice, buck up and move on!

Is it possible for everything we do in the day, to be constructive, like writing a book, or creating a work of art, making a song? You can try, but even if you do all of those things in a day, how are they going to further your walk with Christ? IF witnessing to someone through a video game can do that, then who are any of us to stop Gods hand in the situation?!
 We can look at technology and say &quot;Wow! God you instilled that idea in someones head, gave them the strength, wisdom and patience to follow your plan, whether they knew you or not! You really are amazing! Thank you!&quot; Or we can look at how people are misusing it and doing terrible things with it! 
In some cases its a matter of how you wish to view it, is the glass half empty, or is it half full? We can look up free devotions and sermons, resources for problems that you might need help on in life, getting help from other believers on faith issues ( I am assuming like this site) keeping in contact with friends, school projects for us home schoolers, or, we can look at pornography, video games, computer games that aren't all that wonderful. Again, its a choice. 

I do acknowledge that yes, it has a strong pull on the attention span, and is hard to pull away from, nothing is forcing us to be there doing it either. But so many other things are hard to pull away from as well, I get engulfed in a book and can't pull myself out,  I can be a stronger person about it and set the book down or I can't. it's a choice, a hard one sometimes, but a choice. That is where the beauty of Gods grace and mercy come into play, he is there when we make good choices and bad ones too. And will forgive us if we chose wrong. I am not telling everyone to go out and sin away because you have a safety net. I am saying when you are trying to walk the road and you stumble, Gods there to wipe you off and get you going again. Because we can't do it ourselves.

If everyone had the opportunity to go to a Communist country when they felt like sharing it would be an entirely different world but, we can't all do that some because of physical reason, and many other things that can hinder a person. But you can still have that fire, the drive to share with everyone, and that is when people here in our towns also need to hear the gospel just as much as those people in Communist countries, if not more. Everything we need to share with people has been given to us.

From experience, if you start talking to a non-believer about Christ with a holier-than-thou attitude, they immediately tune you out of just walk away. But if you have had the chance to talk to them and gotten to know them, learned how they feel about certain things, then they are more likely to listen to you when you bring it up and respect your opinion. I do understand that we don't always have the privilege to do that, but it tends to be more successful. I am also a big believer in using your daily life to show people Christ, we are supposed to be a living example. To me that is the best way to show someone the heart of Christ when you let it shine from your actions, and your words. So if you don't like video games for what ever reasons and you have friends who like to play them, you go over to their house or ask if you play them, various different scenarios that could come up! And would you look at that!! You can share your beliefs! With out making them feel like you are rattling off the do's and don'ts of the world. If you start throwing out judgments and telling people everything they are doing wrong, you will get nowhere! And if you do then it could be from guilt, which our faith is never meant to be a guilt trip! We could just use the resources that are are around us!! God has a purpose for *everything* 

Try this...

http://www.dare2share.org/culturecommission/archives/

It talks about using songs, movies, and yes, even video games to bring up Christ.

I love the no video games in the house rule! I love it, love it, love it!! My parents have the same rule and when I have children, it will be the same for my house. They drive me nuts! If I go to a friends house who has them and then starts playing them, I want to break the T.V. into itty bitty tiny little bits! 
People, when playing them can be unresponsive and sometimes just major jerks, I have some friends who aren't that way, they play for a few minutes and if they are needed they nicely put down the controller and go where they are needed, like I said Youth Pastor and Pastor play them! But again, they have the *choice* to respond well or not. We all have the choice to have a bad attitude when we wake up and snap at people if we didn't get enough sleep the night before, or we can bite our tongue and deal with it. Because we have the CHOICE!
 
 
And I have one last  question, would this be a different discussion if it was a Christian video game? If it was &quot;labeled&quot; a &quot;Christian&quot; video game? Would you view it differently? Would it be as big of a waste of time?

P.S. I don't think lipstick is toxic!! Gotta admit, it looks good enough to eat! ;P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tabitha&#8230;</p>
<p>“This ranks among one of the most shocking and misguided statements I have read in recent memory.<br />
Tell me, would YOU like to die doing something worse than useless? I personally would much prefer to face my Savior if I had been executed in a Communist country for preaching the gospel.<br />
And it sounded alarmingly like you were advocating suicide.&#8221;</p>
<p>How did you get advocating suicide from &#8220;It was his time to die,&#8221; God knows when we are going to die, and it might be when we decide to go crazy playing video games or when we just happen to be over sea&#8217;s on a mission,  but its not what we were doing in the moment of our death that is going to matter, it&#8217;s going to be the life we had led up to that point, And to answer your question. I want to stand before my lord with a life that has been *his* not my own, for longer than a quick mission trip to another country, I want my life to be a mission, whether here or over sea&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Passing a judgment like advocating suicide was a bit too hasty, and would advise getting to know someone or at least holding back the comment until you can speak to them privately, before making such judgments.</p>
<p>My point was, that he made a choice, a bad, one, but a choice, God gave us free will as a gift, we should use it but WISELY but being imperfect humans, we don&#8217;t always make the right choices. We should always strive to, but we don&#8217;t always live up to it. This gentleman, made a choice that might not have been a good one, but does that make him a bad person? I think Christ will still accept him with open arms if he feels so inclined, I don&#8217;t think our God is a God that will tell someone that he cant love them because they played video games for so long and that could have been doing better things with their time. If you watch movies all day and your parents come home and see that, do they still love you? Yes! They do! Because it&#8217;s not just that moment that they base their love upon, its a life time, so you made a bad choice, buck up and move on!</p>
<p>Is it possible for everything we do in the day, to be constructive, like writing a book, or creating a work of art, making a song? You can try, but even if you do all of those things in a day, how are they going to further your walk with Christ? IF witnessing to someone through a video game can do that, then who are any of us to stop Gods hand in the situation?!<br />
 We can look at technology and say &#8220;Wow! God you instilled that idea in someones head, gave them the strength, wisdom and patience to follow your plan, whether they knew you or not! You really are amazing! Thank you!&#8221; Or we can look at how people are misusing it and doing terrible things with it!<br />
In some cases its a matter of how you wish to view it, is the glass half empty, or is it half full? We can look up free devotions and sermons, resources for problems that you might need help on in life, getting help from other believers on faith issues ( I am assuming like this site) keeping in contact with friends, school projects for us home schoolers, or, we can look at pornography, video games, computer games that aren&#8217;t all that wonderful. Again, its a choice. </p>
<p>I do acknowledge that yes, it has a strong pull on the attention span, and is hard to pull away from, nothing is forcing us to be there doing it either. But so many other things are hard to pull away from as well, I get engulfed in a book and can&#8217;t pull myself out,  I can be a stronger person about it and set the book down or I can&#8217;t. it&#8217;s a choice, a hard one sometimes, but a choice. That is where the beauty of Gods grace and mercy come into play, he is there when we make good choices and bad ones too. And will forgive us if we chose wrong. I am not telling everyone to go out and sin away because you have a safety net. I am saying when you are trying to walk the road and you stumble, Gods there to wipe you off and get you going again. Because we can&#8217;t do it ourselves.</p>
<p>If everyone had the opportunity to go to a Communist country when they felt like sharing it would be an entirely different world but, we can&#8217;t all do that some because of physical reason, and many other things that can hinder a person. But you can still have that fire, the drive to share with everyone, and that is when people here in our towns also need to hear the gospel just as much as those people in Communist countries, if not more. Everything we need to share with people has been given to us.</p>
<p>From experience, if you start talking to a non-believer about Christ with a holier-than-thou attitude, they immediately tune you out of just walk away. But if you have had the chance to talk to them and gotten to know them, learned how they feel about certain things, then they are more likely to listen to you when you bring it up and respect your opinion. I do understand that we don&#8217;t always have the privilege to do that, but it tends to be more successful. I am also a big believer in using your daily life to show people Christ, we are supposed to be a living example. To me that is the best way to show someone the heart of Christ when you let it shine from your actions, and your words. So if you don&#8217;t like video games for what ever reasons and you have friends who like to play them, you go over to their house or ask if you play them, various different scenarios that could come up! And would you look at that!! You can share your beliefs! With out making them feel like you are rattling off the do&#8217;s and don&#8217;ts of the world. If you start throwing out judgments and telling people everything they are doing wrong, you will get nowhere! And if you do then it could be from guilt, which our faith is never meant to be a guilt trip! We could just use the resources that are are around us!! God has a purpose for *everything* </p>
<p>Try this&#8230;</p>
<p><a href='http://www.dare2share.org/culturecommission/archives/' rel='nofollow'>http://www.dare2share.org/culturecommission/archives/</a></p>
<p>It talks about using songs, movies, and yes, even video games to bring up Christ.</p>
<p>I love the no video games in the house rule! I love it, love it, love it!! My parents have the same rule and when I have children, it will be the same for my house. They drive me nuts! If I go to a friends house who has them and then starts playing them, I want to break the T.V. into itty bitty tiny little bits!<br />
People, when playing them can be unresponsive and sometimes just major jerks, I have some friends who aren&#8217;t that way, they play for a few minutes and if they are needed they nicely put down the controller and go where they are needed, like I said Youth Pastor and Pastor play them! But again, they have the *choice* to respond well or not. We all have the choice to have a bad attitude when we wake up and snap at people if we didn&#8217;t get enough sleep the night before, or we can bite our tongue and deal with it. Because we have the CHOICE!</p>
<p>And I have one last  question, would this be a different discussion if it was a Christian video game? If it was &#8220;labeled&#8221; a &#8220;Christian&#8221; video game? Would you view it differently? Would it be as big of a waste of time?</p>
<p>P.S. I don&#8217;t think lipstick is toxic!! Gotta admit, it looks good enough to eat! ;P
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		<title>by: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/09/kidults-part-2-peter-pans-that-shave/#comment-182103</link>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jan 2008 05:09:18 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Dear Tabitha,
In regards to your cynicism, I find that &quot;forceful&quot;, may not have been the best choice of words. You stood up for what you believed in, and I must respect that.
However,
in my experience with people, I find that those of us who get our point across regarding  technology, might do so better if IT WASN'T OVER THE COMPUTER! Did you consider this?
Now, in regards to your article,
I am not appalled at your point of view. In all seriousness, there are two sides to what you have to say. Regrettably, America is in the stranglehold of an overwhelming tide of technology. In your point-blank statements concerning technology you alluded ,that all technology is evil. Wrong, and you know this...hopefully.
Second, I don't imagine this means much to you. You seem to be the person of reason, but your reasoning  comes with a price. You stand on your hill and you shout, and when people stop to listen, they'd best agree, or suffer the price of dangerous allegations such as &quot;it sounded alarmingly like you were advocating suicide,&quot; which is something no one in their right mind would do. And P.S. wow. I mean wow. The disdain in your voice was palpable. I hope I never treat anyone like that. 
Thirdly, and lastly, convince yourself of this, if your'e ever willing to except your wrong;
you choose to write these comments concerning blogs. But if people didn't buy video games, why would anyone sell them? There are so many things in this world that can kill a man. And an anomally, like the &quot;50 hours&quot; subject, is nothing more than a ripple in the ocean. If you want to change with world, which I doubt you will, then do so privately. You catch more bees with honey than vinegar, and you change more minds with wisdom than the saliva-filled jibberish, sprayed at the computer in hopes that you will alter the face of things (don't doubt that that is what you are trying, or you have submitted your opinion) If you wish to scare people, or intimidate and insult them, then i have no problems reminding you that in this lost world of ours, Christians are not all rebukers. Learn this, and reply.
In serious hopes that we never meet,
Patrick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tabitha,<br />
In regards to your cynicism, I find that &#8220;forceful&#8221;, may not have been the best choice of words. You stood up for what you believed in, and I must respect that.<br />
However,<br />
in my experience with people, I find that those of us who get our point across regarding  technology, might do so better if IT WASN&#8217;T OVER THE COMPUTER! Did you consider this?<br />
Now, in regards to your article,<br />
I am not appalled at your point of view. In all seriousness, there are two sides to what you have to say. Regrettably, America is in the stranglehold of an overwhelming tide of technology. In your point-blank statements concerning technology you alluded ,that all technology is evil. Wrong, and you know this&#8230;hopefully.<br />
Second, I don&#8217;t imagine this means much to you. You seem to be the person of reason, but your reasoning  comes with a price. You stand on your hill and you shout, and when people stop to listen, they&#8217;d best agree, or suffer the price of dangerous allegations such as &#8220;it sounded alarmingly like you were advocating suicide,&#8221; which is something no one in their right mind would do. And P.S. wow. I mean wow. The disdain in your voice was palpable. I hope I never treat anyone like that.<br />
Thirdly, and lastly, convince yourself of this, if your&#8217;e ever willing to except your wrong;<br />
you choose to write these comments concerning blogs. But if people didn&#8217;t buy video games, why would anyone sell them? There are so many things in this world that can kill a man. And an anomally, like the &#8220;50 hours&#8221; subject, is nothing more than a ripple in the ocean. If you want to change with world, which I doubt you will, then do so privately. You catch more bees with honey than vinegar, and you change more minds with wisdom than the saliva-filled jibberish, sprayed at the computer in hopes that you will alter the face of things (don&#8217;t doubt that that is what you are trying, or you have submitted your opinion) If you wish to scare people, or intimidate and insult them, then i have no problems reminding you that in this lost world of ours, Christians are not all rebukers. Learn this, and reply.<br />
In serious hopes that we never meet,<br />
Patrick
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