Comments on: Belief In God Is Killing Us, Study Shows http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/10/belief-in-god-is-killing-us-study-shows/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Thu, 09 Feb 2012 08:36:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Marshall Sherman http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/10/belief-in-god-is-killing-us-study-shows/#comment-2715 Marshall Sherman Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/?p=89#comment-2715 If he's saying that <i>religion</i> has no effect, or even a negative effect, I would agree. Jesus got onto the Pharisees quite a bit for having a "religious" attitude. It's not about "religion", it's about Jesus. A "religion" can't save you, I don't care if it's Christianity, or Buddism, or Islam, it doesn't work that way. Jesus can save you. He's the only one that can. We get so caught up in religion sometimes, that we miss the point. It's not about rules and regulations, and laws, and religions. A "religious" attitude can and will cause problems. Because religious attitudes are critical attitudes, and the Bible is pretty clear on the fact that those attitudes have no place in the Kingdom. Just some thoughts, very thought provoking post Brett.;) If he’s saying that religion has no effect, or even a negative effect, I would agree. Jesus got onto the Pharisees quite a bit for having a “religious” attitude. It’s not about “religion”, it’s about Jesus. A “religion” can’t save you, I don’t care if it’s Christianity, or Buddism, or Islam, it doesn’t work that way. Jesus can save you. He’s the only one that can. We get so caught up in religion sometimes, that we miss the point. It’s not about rules and regulations, and laws, and religions. A “religious” attitude can and will cause problems. Because religious attitudes are critical attitudes, and the Bible is pretty clear on the fact that those attitudes have no place in the Kingdom.

Just some thoughts, very thought provoking post Brett.;)

]]> By: Travis http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/10/belief-in-god-is-killing-us-study-shows/#comment-2716 Travis Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/?p=89#comment-2716 I can tell you one thing, this idea was totaly counter to the thoughts of our first President. Have a look at this quote: "Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens." - George Washington Thanks for bringing this to our attention guys. Travis I can tell you one thing, this idea was totaly counter to the thoughts of our first President. Have a look at this quote:

“Of all the dispositions and habits, which lead to political prosperity, Religion and Morality are indispensable supports. In vain would that man claim the tribute of Patriotism, who should labor to subvert these great pillars of human happiness, these firmest props of the duties of Men and Citizens.”
- George Washington

Thanks for bringing this to our attention guys.

Travis

]]> By: Broken Messenger http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/10/belief-in-god-is-killing-us-study-shows/#comment-2717 Broken Messenger Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/?p=89#comment-2717 <i>Gledhill cites a research study, recently published in the Journal of Religion and Society, that compares largely secular societies such as Great Britain and Japan with the United States, which is heavily populated by active Christians. The study supposedly shows a direct link between "belief and worship of a creator" and social ills.</i> Interesting that such studies would exclude China, France, Germany and Italy which are far more secular. It would be interesting to know how social ills are defined and of the religious/world views of those offenders causing such ills. Good post, guys. Brad Gledhill cites a research study, recently published in the Journal of Religion and Society, that compares largely secular societies such as Great Britain and Japan with the United States, which is heavily populated by active Christians. The study supposedly shows a direct link between “belief and worship of a creator” and social ills.

Interesting that such studies would exclude China, France, Germany and Italy which are far more secular. It would be interesting to know how social ills are defined and of the religious/world views of those offenders causing such ills.

Good post, guys.

Brad

]]> By: Broken Messenger http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/10/belief-in-god-is-killing-us-study-shows/#comment-2718 Broken Messenger Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/?p=89#comment-2718 <i>More importantly, what is the real contributing factor to the claimed moral inferiority of the United States?</i> Ignorance. Compared to Japan and Great Britian, I am unconvinced that America trails these two countries. We provide the majority of humanitarian aid for world crisises and have standards concerning sexual immorality that is more in keeping to the Gospel than those countries. But again, not knowing the individual religious preference of the criminal just breeds a study that compares apples to oranges. If the question turns to the subject of why is America morally deteriorating, I would answer: The degradation of the church within American society. As carriers of the Gospel <b>we</b> as the church are to be light in a dark world. When that light begins to dim or fade, we cannot just shrug our shoulders and point a finger at the world. As carriers of the Gospel, it is our responsiblity to care for our own walk with Christ and in keeping with such a walk we are to exhibit the holiness that is to follow our committment to Him. Brad More importantly, what is the real contributing factor to the claimed moral inferiority of the United States?

Ignorance. Compared to Japan and Great Britian, I am unconvinced that America trails these two countries. We provide the majority of humanitarian aid for world crisises and have standards concerning sexual immorality that is more in keeping to the Gospel than those countries. But again, not knowing the individual religious preference of the criminal just breeds a study that compares apples to oranges.

If the question turns to the subject of why is America morally deteriorating, I would answer: The degradation of the church within American society. As carriers of the Gospel we as the church are to be light in a dark world. When that light begins to dim or fade, we cannot just shrug our shoulders and point a finger at the world. As carriers of the Gospel, it is our responsiblity to care for our own walk with Christ and in keeping with such a walk we are to exhibit the holiness that is to follow our committment to Him.

Brad

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