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	<title>Comments on: Save The Wheel: Reinvented - The Dinner Table</title>
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	<description>reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations</description>
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		<title>By: John Robert Moore</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3157</link>
		<dc:creator>John Robert Moore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it's good to collaborate, especially among Christians.  Too often we work with those who don't share our fundamental views for life, and it works its way into the film.

Sadly, I'm in a pretty bad position for collaboration.  We have two types here:  The city slickers, that know computers and technology, but are completely devoid of God's word, and we have the ranchers, who thoroughly understand God's word and are either working or reading the bible, but don't have a clue what the internet is, other than it has something to do with bill gates.

That is, of course, an oversimplification, but it's pretty much accurate.

Fortunately, we did meet some filmmakers at the 2004 festival, which live somewhat near our area, and at the 05 fest, we met even more filmmakers that lived much closer.

Still though, I'm just learning, and I think I'll continue to improve on my own before I go into a much bigger production.

Oh yeah....

The Mom under the table scared me in that video....  No WONDER Father's know everything....

Mom listens in on the conversation, repeats the information to Dad, and he interprets it.

It's very strategic method...

;-)

God Bless!

In Christ, John.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it&#8217;s good to collaborate, especially among Christians.  Too often we work with those who don&#8217;t share our fundamental views for life, and it works its way into the film.</p>
<p>Sadly, I&#8217;m in a pretty bad position for collaboration.  We have two types here:  The city slickers, that know computers and technology, but are completely devoid of God&#8217;s word, and we have the ranchers, who thoroughly understand God&#8217;s word and are either working or reading the bible, but don&#8217;t have a clue what the internet is, other than it has something to do with bill gates.</p>
<p>That is, of course, an oversimplification, but it&#8217;s pretty much accurate.</p>
<p>Fortunately, we did meet some filmmakers at the 2004 festival, which live somewhat near our area, and at the 05 fest, we met even more filmmakers that lived much closer.</p>
<p>Still though, I&#8217;m just learning, and I think I&#8217;ll continue to improve on my own before I go into a much bigger production.</p>
<p>Oh yeah&#8230;.</p>
<p>The Mom under the table scared me in that video&#8230;.  No WONDER Father&#8217;s know everything&#8230;.</p>
<p>Mom listens in on the conversation, repeats the information to Dad, and he interprets it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s very strategic method&#8230;<br />
 <img src='http://www.therebelution.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
God Bless!</p>
<p>In Christ, John.</p>
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		<title>By: andrewG</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3158</link>
		<dc:creator>andrewG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what's up alex -- great job on the flick.  we were planning something similar...but a little different...

what's new?  you guys making any new films?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what&#8217;s up alex &#8212; great job on the flick.  we were planning something similar&#8230;but a little different&#8230;</p>
<p>what&#8217;s new?  you guys making any new films?</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel James Devine</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3159</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel James Devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this probably isn't the best way to debut my comments on the Rebelution, but I'm going to start off by being a bit critical of the Dinner Table flick.  First, and most important, what was the message of the clip?  My impression is that it intends to satirically eliminate dinner-table conversation by putting everyone's backs to one another, making fun of the tremendous lack of family mealtimes in America.  However, that message is not obvious.
Second, from the perspective of a fat, lazy moviewatcher, it seems like some of the shots last longer than they should, giving the viewer too much time to think things like, "Why are they eating off the chairs?"

Having said all this (so rudely), I've never made a movie except with my cheap digital camera, and I've certainly never had actors or a story line.  It sounds like you filmed and edited the whole flick in a relatively short amount of time, and you are certainly to be commended for that.  Keep up the good work.  This whole Christian filming movement is starting to take off, and everyone who contributes is essential.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this probably isn&#8217;t the best way to debut my comments on the Rebelution, but I&#8217;m going to start off by being a bit critical of the Dinner Table flick.  First, and most important, what was the message of the clip?  My impression is that it intends to satirically eliminate dinner-table conversation by putting everyone&#8217;s backs to one another, making fun of the tremendous lack of family mealtimes in America.  However, that message is not obvious.<br />
Second, from the perspective of a fat, lazy moviewatcher, it seems like some of the shots last longer than they should, giving the viewer too much time to think things like, &#8220;Why are they eating off the chairs?&#8221;</p>
<p>Having said all this (so rudely), I&#8217;ve never made a movie except with my cheap digital camera, and I&#8217;ve certainly never had actors or a story line.  It sounds like you filmed and edited the whole flick in a relatively short amount of time, and you are certainly to be commended for that.  Keep up the good work.  This whole Christian filming movement is starting to take off, and everyone who contributes is essential.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Jordan Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3160</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Jordan Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I apologize, Mr. Devine. I confess that I posted with the assumption that our readers were already familiar with the Save The Wheel website and its message. Allow me to clarify briefly: 

The message of Save The Wheel dot Com is that some things simply do not need to be reinvented. The "wheel" is the paradigmatic example of such a thing, but in this case, serves only to symbolize something much more important. Some of the things our readers have theorized as being the "meaning behind the wheel" are "truth," "the gospel," etc... More recently, those behind the site have revealed the website's ties to the New Attitude Conference, a Christian singles conference put on by Sovereign Grace Ministries.

Because of this, the message of the film was simply that reinventing some things is just a bad idea. The thing we chose to demonstrate this was the dinner table. Not only is eating food from the chair while sitting on the table awkward and messy, but it also detracts from fellowship among the family. Because it was posted in the context of a site that many of our readers are already familiar, perhaps we failed to make it &lt;i&gt;as&lt;/i&gt; clear as was necessary.

Regarding the quality of the film. I agree with all your observations. Those things would most likely have been fixed with more than 45 minutes post-production, but your points remain valid.

Thank you for the constructive criticism. God bless!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I apologize, Mr. Devine. I confess that I posted with the assumption that our readers were already familiar with the Save The Wheel website and its message. Allow me to clarify briefly: </p>
<p>The message of Save The Wheel dot Com is that some things simply do not need to be reinvented. The &#8220;wheel&#8221; is the paradigmatic example of such a thing, but in this case, serves only to symbolize something much more important. Some of the things our readers have theorized as being the &#8220;meaning behind the wheel&#8221; are &#8220;truth,&#8221; &#8220;the gospel,&#8221; etc&#8230; More recently, those behind the site have revealed the website&#8217;s ties to the New Attitude Conference, a Christian singles conference put on by Sovereign Grace Ministries.</p>
<p>Because of this, the message of the film was simply that reinventing some things is just a bad idea. The thing we chose to demonstrate this was the dinner table. Not only is eating food from the chair while sitting on the table awkward and messy, but it also detracts from fellowship among the family. Because it was posted in the context of a site that many of our readers are already familiar, perhaps we failed to make it <i>as</i> clear as was necessary.</p>
<p>Regarding the quality of the film. I agree with all your observations. Those things would most likely have been fixed with more than 45 minutes post-production, but your points remain valid.</p>
<p>Thank you for the constructive criticism. God bless!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel James Devine</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3161</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel James Devine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see . . .
Thanks for the explanation of "Save the Wheel."  When I was there I didn't see anything that explained the purpose of the site; but now I know.  With that perspective your film fits nicely with the theme.
Take care,
Daniel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see . . .<br />
Thanks for the explanation of &#8220;Save the Wheel.&#8221;  When I was there I didn&#8217;t see anything that explained the purpose of the site; but now I know.  With that perspective your film fits nicely with the theme.<br />
Take care,<br />
Daniel</p>
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		<title>By: Grace Petitmermet</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2005/11/save-the-wheel-reinvented-the-dinner-table/#comment-3162</link>
		<dc:creator>Grace Petitmermet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Nov 1999 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well done :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well done <img src='http://www.therebelution.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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