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]]> By: anonymous http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/08/modern-day-gentleman/#comment-1176496 anonymous Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:17:35 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/?p=431#comment-1176496 I wholly agree with Adrienne! First, all of you must understand that despite gender differences, men and women are EQUAL, the fact that probably men are more inclined to sciences, maths, physics etc doesn't mean that women are totally incapable to learn those subjects. What, we should prohibit girls in schools learning them?! We should prevent girls to practise sports, martial arts etc?? Gender differences should not be transformed into set oppressive rules about what women should do and what men should do. Those differences are complementary, and we're not to hold strict stereotypes. Weren't there famous Queens such as Elisabeth the first, famous heroines such as Joanne of Ark, or a famous scientist Marie Curie?? What, would you say that these women were masculine, they behaved like men, or they had male brains?? The exceptions prove the generalities! Yes, I agree men are stronger than women and designed to protect women, but no one has the right to label us as helpless, weak creatures in distress. I have dealt with thieves who entered my house, street hooligans, I adore everything that embodies courage, honor, I love swords, horses, I practice martial arts just for fun and self-defence. Am I a masculine for this?? Still, I enjoy chivalrous displays, I'm always grateful for opening doors, pulling chairs etc but I don't agree that only men are capable of creativity as Peter Charnley declares, only they have the monopoly of power, positions, only they're able to have genius and other well-known bla bla bla arguments that always rattle out to justify female inferiority. I don't deny male/female differences, I don't view chivalry as demeaning, I'm just saying that those differences should not be rigid artificial so-called "Godly designed roles". God did not tell women to be at home, He did not tell them to be baby-machines, incapable beings, He told us that despite your different nature, you're worth to be treated on equal footing. One day, the Divine Feminine will arise, don't you forget that!!!!!! I wholly agree with Adrienne! First, all of you must understand that despite gender differences, men and women are EQUAL, the fact that probably men are more inclined to sciences, maths, physics etc doesn’t mean that women are totally incapable to learn those subjects. What, we should prohibit girls in schools learning them?! We should prevent girls to practise sports, martial arts etc?? Gender differences should not be transformed into set oppressive rules about what women should do and what men should do. Those differences are complementary, and we’re not to hold strict stereotypes. Weren’t there famous Queens such as Elisabeth the first, famous heroines such as Joanne of Ark, or a famous scientist Marie Curie?? What, would you say that these women were masculine, they behaved like men, or they had male brains?? The exceptions prove the generalities!
Yes, I agree men are stronger than women and designed to protect women, but no one has the right to label us as helpless, weak creatures in distress. I have dealt with thieves who entered my house, street hooligans, I adore everything that embodies courage, honor, I love swords, horses, I practice martial arts just for fun and self-defence. Am I a masculine for this?? Still, I enjoy chivalrous displays, I’m always grateful for opening doors, pulling chairs etc but I don’t agree that only men are capable of creativity as Peter Charnley declares, only they have the monopoly of power, positions, only they’re able to have genius and other well-known bla bla bla arguments that always rattle out to justify female inferiority. I don’t deny male/female differences, I don’t view chivalry as demeaning, I’m just saying that those differences should not be rigid artificial so-called “Godly designed roles”. God did not tell women to be at home, He did not tell them to be baby-machines, incapable beings, He told us that despite your different nature, you’re worth to be treated on equal footing.

One day, the Divine Feminine will arise, don’t you forget that!!!!!!

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On the positive it the origins of feminism(not the 1970s bra-burning radicals) was about giving women equal status regarding political, economical, social and basic civil rights to women in times were they denied this and treated like second-class citizens. First wave feminism was about basic rights to vote, own her own property, and other political areas, and second wave in the 1960s was equality in careers, salaries, education, healthcare, politics, more programs for battered women, and breaking own extreme gender stereotypes that were limiting to both sexes. These were noble causes. However the extreme radical feminism that took over the second wave took things too far by distorting it causing confusing among the sexes, women rejected chivalry as being sexist and demeaning, being ladylike as being restrictive, trying to dissolve differences between the sexes except for basic biological function blurring gender lines. Then the sexual liberation and post hippy society furthered the damages, encouraging free love casual flings, and attempting to obsolete all gender roles altogether. This is were things went wrong. The best way to correct the mistakes of the post feminist society is by neither trying to completely go back to a nostalgia period in time nor abandoning all the traditional cultural norms, customs and morals but rather have a balance of both. I'm all for increasing chivalry for the modern times as well as gentlemen and ladies on modern standards but not holding on to very restrictive stereotypes of what a man or woman should be. I mean today a man or a woman can have any profession, any hobby, skills, he/she choose. A woman can drive a pickup truck work, play sports, work in a male dominated field and still be a woman or even a lady. A man can cook, bake, do laundry, take up dancing and work in a female dominated field and still be a man and a gentleman. As for chivalry itself, the origins started back during the medieval era as code for the knights regarding defending and protecting the weak and defenseless including the poor and respect for women as the fairer sex. Today it's been slightly updated for courtly love(opening door for lady). I believe some values of the of the earlier codes of chivalry should also be apply today being modernized for the times, as many have said men are still physically the stronger sex and I believe they are built to be natural protectors especially of those physically weaker than themselves. This doesn't make women inferior but the bible does refer to us the weaker vessel yet join heirs in new life meaning were are still equal in worth and co-partners with men in marriage. Thanks again for this article. Although this article is five years old I couldn’t resist to comment having read other people’s post. I agree with this post and believe it was well presented. You guys are seem like very smart young men who understand better than some even lot older than yourselves what it means to be a honorable gentlemen including some of those who commented. Now I have to express my views on certain issues that was discussed among, the commentors. First, regarding this feminism debate and the so called different roles. First, I’m neither a feminist nor an anti-feminist patriarch. I believe men and women are equal value, under god under the law yet different. I’m also see both sides of the argument regarding feminism in which I recognize that it had both positive and negative affects on society. On the positive it the origins of feminism(not the 1970s bra-burning radicals) was about giving women equal status regarding political, economical, social and basic civil rights to women in times were they denied this and treated like second-class citizens. First wave feminism was about basic rights to vote, own her own property, and other political areas, and second wave in the 1960s was equality in careers, salaries, education, healthcare, politics, more programs for battered women, and breaking own extreme gender stereotypes that were limiting to both sexes. These were noble causes. However the extreme radical feminism that took over the second wave took things too far by distorting it causing confusing among the sexes, women rejected chivalry as being sexist and demeaning, being ladylike as being restrictive, trying to dissolve differences between the sexes except for basic biological function blurring gender lines. Then the sexual liberation and post hippy society furthered the damages, encouraging free love casual flings, and attempting to obsolete all gender roles altogether. This is were things went wrong. The best way to correct the mistakes of the post feminist society is by neither trying to completely go back to a nostalgia period in time nor abandoning all the traditional cultural norms, customs and morals but rather have a balance of both. I’m all for increasing chivalry for the modern times as well as gentlemen and ladies on modern standards but not holding on to very restrictive stereotypes of what a man or woman should be. I mean today a man or a woman can have any profession, any hobby, skills, he/she choose. A woman can drive a pickup truck work, play sports, work in a male dominated field and still be a woman or even a lady. A man can cook, bake, do laundry, take up dancing and work in a female dominated field and still be a man and a gentleman. As for chivalry itself, the origins started back during the medieval era as code for the knights regarding defending and protecting the weak and defenseless including the poor and respect for women as the fairer sex. Today it’s been slightly updated for courtly love(opening door for lady). I believe some values of the of the earlier codes of chivalry should also be apply today being modernized for the times, as many have said men are still physically the stronger sex and I believe they are built to be natural protectors especially of those physically weaker than themselves. This doesn’t make women inferior but the bible does refer to us the weaker vessel yet join heirs in new life meaning were are still equal in worth and co-partners with men in marriage. Thanks again for this article.

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