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		<title>By: About Glucosamine</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-1249273</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jan 2012 08:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to say your blog is almost amazing. I always like to learn something new about this because I have the similar blog in my Country on this subject so this helpÂ´s me a lot. I did a search on the subject and found a good number of blogs but nothing like this.Thanks for sharing so much in your blog.. Greets, Ana</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to say your blog is almost amazing. I always like to learn something new about this because I have the similar blog in my Country on this subject so this helpÂ´s me a lot. I did a search on the subject and found a good number of blogs but nothing like this.Thanks for sharing so much in your blog.. Greets, Ana</p>
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		<title>By: Adrienne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adrienne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2011 20:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have commented before and had to comment again on well written article.  it's nice to read a reasonable  christian view point on feminism that isn't too anti-feminist.  As I  said before I'm neither entirely on the feminist nor anti-feminist camp and acknowledge both the positive and negative affects in had on society.  Which is why I have to correct some of your points, even though I agree with most of you views.  

First, I don't think the origins of feminism set out to have women dominate men as you claim the bible predicts, but to place women equal status with men.  I agree extreme feminism of the second wave women's movement in 1960s-1970s took things way too far to gain equality by ignoring or erase gender distinctions except for basic biological differences(even that is sometimes treated as less importance or ignored in certain situations), being housewives is oppressive, women can do it all, or that a woman should be more like a man too succeed and denouncing femininity as being weak.  The list goes on but those of the main points.   

Another point i need to make is you keep going on about different roles and responsibilities about but don't say what are exactly the different roles and duties, in the home, society?   Many feminists probably reject this philosophy as limiting women's roles in society and I kind of see their point in that area even if I don't entirely agree.  I think there needs to be a line to draw regarding what type of roles between the sexes that are different and not based them on extreme and restrictive gender stereotypes of what men and women should do.   

Some of the different roles are in the marriage in which only the husband is the head and wife is the helpmeet.  When I say head I don't mean the typical english meaning of head but greek word kephale which means the one being out in front leading the way taking the greatest risks as Jesus did when led the way for the church even laying down his life for it.  I'ts not about having a higher rank or authority over a wife rather than the responsibility to take the lead in self sacrifice service, giving and protection of his wife and his wife submits( voluntary yield oneself to another out of love) to this as a helpmeet(partner, ally, companion).

 Many christians hold on to the Ward and June Cleaver image of what the different roles in the home or in society but these are  not the biblical way either.  Patriarch views on christianity has been used to justify chauvinism placing men on higher status in marriage and in life, limiting women's roles by taking scriptures out of context and misinterpreting them altogether. For one thing, the scripture never says men are the head of the household but the head of the wife.  Actually scriptures teaches women are to be masters of the household  in Tim 5:14 the greek word oikodespoteo is used which means to rule, to head or to master.  In Tim 3:4 and Tim 312 the greek word proistemi is used describing the husband's duty which means to protect, superintend, give aid, care set or place before and guardian. I want to conclude that christians need to have a better understanding what the distant roles of between sexes and where to drawn the line that doesn't hold on to some outdated ideals based on extreme gender stereoptypes from era of "Leave it to Beaver" neither should be try to through out all the distinctions and have completely roleless marriage based on on extreme post feminist viewpoint.  

I recall there is a book by Robert Lewis called "Rocking the roles, Win Win marriage where he encourages people to go beyond the Ozzie &amp; Harriet type of marriage and the modern roleless marriage of today which could make an interesting read.  Thanks again for a good article</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have commented before and had to comment again on well written article.  it&#8217;s nice to read a reasonable  christian view point on feminism that isn&#8217;t too anti-feminist.  As I  said before I&#8217;m neither entirely on the feminist nor anti-feminist camp and acknowledge both the positive and negative affects in had on society.  Which is why I have to correct some of your points, even though I agree with most of you views.  </p>
<p>First, I don&#8217;t think the origins of feminism set out to have women dominate men as you claim the bible predicts, but to place women equal status with men.  I agree extreme feminism of the second wave women&#8217;s movement in 1960s-1970s took things way too far to gain equality by ignoring or erase gender distinctions except for basic biological differences(even that is sometimes treated as less importance or ignored in certain situations), being housewives is oppressive, women can do it all, or that a woman should be more like a man too succeed and denouncing femininity as being weak.  The list goes on but those of the main points.   </p>
<p>Another point i need to make is you keep going on about different roles and responsibilities about but don&#8217;t say what are exactly the different roles and duties, in the home, society?   Many feminists probably reject this philosophy as limiting women&#8217;s roles in society and I kind of see their point in that area even if I don&#8217;t entirely agree.  I think there needs to be a line to draw regarding what type of roles between the sexes that are different and not based them on extreme and restrictive gender stereotypes of what men and women should do.   </p>
<p>Some of the different roles are in the marriage in which only the husband is the head and wife is the helpmeet.  When I say head I don&#8217;t mean the typical english meaning of head but greek word kephale which means the one being out in front leading the way taking the greatest risks as Jesus did when led the way for the church even laying down his life for it.  I&#8217;ts not about having a higher rank or authority over a wife rather than the responsibility to take the lead in self sacrifice service, giving and protection of his wife and his wife submits( voluntary yield oneself to another out of love) to this as a helpmeet(partner, ally, companion).</p>
<p> Many christians hold on to the Ward and June Cleaver image of what the different roles in the home or in society but these are  not the biblical way either.  Patriarch views on christianity has been used to justify chauvinism placing men on higher status in marriage and in life, limiting women&#8217;s roles by taking scriptures out of context and misinterpreting them altogether. For one thing, the scripture never says men are the head of the household but the head of the wife.  Actually scriptures teaches women are to be masters of the household  in Tim 5:14 the greek word oikodespoteo is used which means to rule, to head or to master.  In Tim 3:4 and Tim 312 the greek word proistemi is used describing the husband&#8217;s duty which means to protect, superintend, give aid, care set or place before and guardian. I want to conclude that christians need to have a better understanding what the distant roles of between sexes and where to drawn the line that doesn&#8217;t hold on to some outdated ideals based on extreme gender stereoptypes from era of &#8220;Leave it to Beaver&#8221; neither should be try to through out all the distinctions and have completely roleless marriage based on on extreme post feminist viewpoint.  </p>
<p>I recall there is a book by Robert Lewis called &#8220;Rocking the roles, Win Win marriage where he encourages people to go beyond the Ozzie &amp; Harriet type of marriage and the modern roleless marriage of today which could make an interesting read.  Thanks again for a good article</p>
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		<title>By: pan card status</title>
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		<dc:creator>pan card status</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Nov 2011 15:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why didnt I think about this? I hear exactly what youre saying and Im so happy that I came across your blog. You really know what youre talking about, and you made me feel like I should learn more about this. Thanks for this; Im officially a huge fan of your blog</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why didnt I think about this? I hear exactly what youre saying and Im so happy that I came across your blog. You really know what youre talking about, and you made me feel like I should learn more about this. Thanks for this; Im officially a huge fan of your blog</p>
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		<title>By: Alfreda Hurrle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alfreda Hurrle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2011 05:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In a report published in The New England Journal of Medicine, Dr. Wing and her colleagues found that stepping on a scale regularly can be as important when you&#8217;re trying to maintain as when you&#8217;re looking to lose. In fact, study participants who weighed in daily were 82 percent not as likely to regain lost weight than those who didn&#8217;t weigh themselves every single day. If a daily weigh-in seems too extreme, try weighing in weekly: Although Lifetime members aren&#8217;t required to step on the scale each week, doing so will help keep you accountable. Experiment with daily, weekly, and monthly weigh-ins to see what is most effective.</p>
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		<dc:creator>Demetrius Presume</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2011 15:12:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Nikki Zone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nikki Zone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 May 2011 10:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve noticed that credit restoration activity has to be conducted with tactics. If not, you are going to find yourself destroying your rank. In order to be successful in fixing your credit ranking you have to always make sure that from this minute you pay all your monthly costs promptly in advance of their booked date. It is significant since by definitely not accomplishing that, all other activities that you will choose to use to improve your credit position will not be efficient. Thanks for sharing your suggestions.</p>
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		<title>By: Sue</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that someone cleared up the issue of what the Hebrew means. But it should also be pointed out that the Bible never says that the husband was the head of the household and such a term had never occured in Greek with the word kephale. In fact, the only person who is called head of the household in the scriptures is the wife in 1 Tim. 5:14, where women are told to be the head of their house.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that someone cleared up the issue of what the Hebrew means. But it should also be pointed out that the Bible never says that the husband was the head of the household and such a term had never occured in Greek with the word kephale. In fact, the only person who is called head of the household in the scriptures is the wife in 1 Tim. 5:14, where women are told to be the head of their house.</p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
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		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 31 Aug 2010 20:14:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaylyn- Thank you for addressing my question even if you don't have the answer- I'm not sure if anyone actually does! What I've been told recently is that submission within a marriage should be mutual because in Ephesians 5 before it says the 'women submit to you husband' part, it says that christians should 'submit to one another out of reverence to Christ Jesus'. Women later being told to submit to their husbands does not release the husband from his need to also submit to the wife. I plan to build a marriage on mutual submission! 

In response to your question, I guess women ( and likewise men) are not free to 'choose' not to marry, as God's will prevails. But if it is not God's will for you to be married then he has a perfect plan for you! 

In Christ's love, 
Megan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaylyn- Thank you for addressing my question even if you don&#8217;t have the answer- I&#8217;m not sure if anyone actually does! What I&#8217;ve been told recently is that submission within a marriage should be mutual because in Ephesians 5 before it says the &#8216;women submit to you husband&#8217; part, it says that christians should &#8217;submit to one another out of reverence to Christ Jesus&#8217;. Women later being told to submit to their husbands does not release the husband from his need to also submit to the wife. I plan to build a marriage on mutual submission! </p>
<p>In response to your question, I guess women ( and likewise men) are not free to &#8216;choose&#8217; not to marry, as God&#8217;s will prevails. But if it is not God&#8217;s will for you to be married then he has a perfect plan for you! </p>
<p>In Christ&#8217;s love,<br />
Megan</p>
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		<title>By: kaylyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>kaylyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Jul 2010 06:50:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ML i dont have answers for you just similar questions. i hope i find clerity on the subject through God. i read the article along with the comments and my thoughts are similar to Kara Fullers. and one question i do have is what if a woman choose not to marry, what  then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ML i dont have answers for you just similar questions. i hope i find clerity on the subject through God. i read the article along with the comments and my thoughts are similar to Kara Fullers. and one question i do have is what if a woman choose not to marry, what  then?</p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
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		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jul 2010 04:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I kind of agree with the points in this post, because women and men are different. But I have found that in many Christian circles, they believe that the woman's role should be in the home and I just can't agree with that. Many of the few bible verses on this subject are taken out of context. I have to be honest though, one of the reasons that I don't like this theology is that I have never wanted to be the stay-at-home-mom, I want to go to university and get a good job that is beneficial to society. I believe that God has given me the talents to do this and it seems ridiculous to sit at home and play mom and wife all day long. Can I ask a question, I know this post was written a few years ago, so I am not sue if anyone will answer. What would happen in a relationship where the woman's earning capacity is higher than the man's? Should she still be expected to do the majority of the housework? And what if a woman (like me) just simply doesn't like the role that women have been given? Are men supposed to make a difference more than women? Sorry if I have come across overly defensive, this issue is something that I struggle with about Christianity... the God that I worship doesn't seem like the kind to want to limit women in this way, and I know that you would say that it is not limiting, but man, it feels that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I kind of agree with the points in this post, because women and men are different. But I have found that in many Christian circles, they believe that the woman&#8217;s role should be in the home and I just can&#8217;t agree with that. Many of the few bible verses on this subject are taken out of context. I have to be honest though, one of the reasons that I don&#8217;t like this theology is that I have never wanted to be the stay-at-home-mom, I want to go to university and get a good job that is beneficial to society. I believe that God has given me the talents to do this and it seems ridiculous to sit at home and play mom and wife all day long. Can I ask a question, I know this post was written a few years ago, so I am not sue if anyone will answer. What would happen in a relationship where the woman&#8217;s earning capacity is higher than the man&#8217;s? Should she still be expected to do the majority of the housework? And what if a woman (like me) just simply doesn&#8217;t like the role that women have been given? Are men supposed to make a difference more than women? Sorry if I have come across overly defensive, this issue is something that I struggle with about Christianity&#8230; the God that I worship doesn&#8217;t seem like the kind to want to limit women in this way, and I know that you would say that it is not limiting, but man, it feels that way.</p>
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