Comments on: Feminism And Biblical Roles http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:47:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Sarah http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-539379 Sarah Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:07:03 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-539379 Just a thought I had while reading many of the above comments: A lot of the girls would like to say that the feminist movement is men's fault because they have not done their duty to honor, respect, lead etc. While I would agree that there are many men out there who have not acted as they should in that regard, to blame men for something that women have done is unfair. We are not responsible for men's mistakes, we are only responsible for the way we respond. We may all do better to stop pointing out what everyone else is doing wrong and focus on what we can do to make it better. And about serving the husbands, in a way God does call women to serve their husbands but he also calls husbands to serve their wives (if you look at the biblical concept of leadership you don't find dominance and dictatorship but giving and serving). Good marriages (or good lives for that matter) are based not on selfishness but on selfLESSness, they are based on giving everything you have even if you get nothing back. God does hold us accountable for our own accountable for our own actions, not anyone else's. He does require wives to love their husbands and let them lead even when they don't deserve it and he does require the husband to honor, respect, and love their wives even when they don't deserve it. On a side note any girls looking for good reading material "Set Apart Femininity" by Leslie Ludy is an excellent book about achieving a personal and powerful relationship with God which is really the most important thing. The book was well written and easy to read but also very encouraging and challenging and I was very blessed by it so I highly recommend it for any girl who wants to follow Christ. (It was written for girls in the 18-24 range I believe but would be beneficial to just about any age group.) God bless all of you! Sarah =D Just a thought I had while reading many of the above comments: A lot of the girls would like to say that the feminist movement is men’s fault because they have not done their duty to honor, respect, lead etc. While I would agree that there are many men out there who have not acted as they should in that regard, to blame men for something that women have done is unfair. We are not responsible for men’s mistakes, we are only responsible for the way we respond. We may all do better to stop pointing out what everyone else is doing wrong and focus on what we can do to make it better. And about serving the husbands, in a way God does call women to serve their husbands but he also calls husbands to serve their wives (if you look at the biblical concept of leadership you don’t find dominance and dictatorship but giving and serving). Good marriages (or good lives for that matter) are based not on selfishness but on selfLESSness, they are based on giving everything you have even if you get nothing back. God does hold us accountable for our own accountable for our own actions, not anyone else’s. He does require wives to love their husbands and let them lead even when they don’t deserve it and he does require the husband to honor, respect, and love their wives even when they don’t deserve it.

On a side note any girls looking for good reading material “Set Apart Femininity” by Leslie Ludy is an excellent book about achieving a personal and powerful relationship with God which is really the most important thing. The book was well written and easy to read but also very encouraging and challenging and I was very blessed by it so I highly recommend it for any girl who wants to follow Christ. (It was written for girls in the 18-24 range I believe but would be beneficial to just about any age group.)
God bless all of you!
Sarah =D

]]> By: Anna http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-537107 Anna Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:33:05 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-537107 I honestly don't agree with your statement that the feminists want to put women above men, and I speak as a very strong feminist. The point really is to esptablish equality, but the sort of equality that means women CAN do what men can do. It doesn't mean they have to or should, but the opprotunities and rights are still there. Anything less, I believe, is demining women. And, no offense the the guys out there, but it's the men's fault. Women have been demined and treated as worthless except to produce children, it's only natural that some day, some time, there's going to be women that don't buy into that. It's in the human nature to rebel. Another thing, I don't appreciate ya'll acting like feminists are somehow non-Christianlike because of their beliefs. It's how God made us, he made people like me want to be equal to men. And I don't think that's wrong. If all women believed that they should only want to serve their husbands, we wouldn't have Jane Goodall, Sally Ride, Marie Curie. All that being said, I'm not in any way trying to make a jab at or undermine the women who chose to dedicate their lives to being mothers and wives. If that's where God has called you, I think that's wonderful and beautiful. I honestly don’t agree with your statement that the feminists want to put women above men, and I speak as a very strong feminist. The point really is to esptablish equality, but the sort of equality that means women CAN do what men can do. It doesn’t mean they have to or should, but the opprotunities and rights are still there. Anything less, I believe, is demining women. And, no offense the the guys out there, but it’s the men’s fault. Women have been demined and treated as worthless except to produce children, it’s only natural that some day, some time, there’s going to be women that don’t buy into that. It’s in the human nature to rebel.
Another thing, I don’t appreciate ya’ll acting like feminists are somehow non-Christianlike because of their beliefs. It’s how God made us, he made people like me want to be equal to men. And I don’t think that’s wrong. If all women believed that they should only want to serve their husbands, we wouldn’t have Jane Goodall, Sally Ride, Marie Curie.
All that being said, I’m not in any way trying to make a jab at or undermine the women who chose to dedicate their lives to being mothers and wives. If that’s where God has called you, I think that’s wonderful and beautiful.

]]> By: Amanda http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-525169 Amanda Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:48:24 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-525169 yea if the author is only like 22 now he was a teen around the time of the first article. What could a teen know about feminism? Obviously feminism has bad rep in Christian circles. The meaning is thrown out of whack. yea if the author is only like 22 now he was a teen around the time of the first article. What could a teen know about feminism? Obviously feminism has bad rep in Christian circles. The meaning is thrown out of whack.

]]> By: Cadence http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-522862 Cadence Sat, 19 Dec 2009 04:14:40 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-522862 I like this article. Linguistics aside, I felt like the conclusion could be supported from the historical summations presented. I also feel there's more value in considering the implications of the excess to which the feminist movement has gone. I'm going to generalize a bit by saying the typical feminist might believe she is striving for "equality' when in reality it is a grasp for power. There seems to be a paranoia among feminists - they just know they are not being as well paid/well respected/well treated as their male counterparts. And this, all judging by the world's standards, not the Bible's. This paranoia leads to a host of evils. I personally feel the feminist movement robbed me of the joy in being feminine, even as it stripped masculinity from men. How can we appreciate the neighboring sex appropriately, in purity, when the differences between us cannot be celebrated? I like this article. Linguistics aside, I felt like the conclusion could be supported from the historical summations presented. I also feel there’s more value in considering the implications of the excess to which the feminist movement has gone. I’m going to generalize a bit by saying the typical feminist might believe she is striving for “equality’ when in reality it is a grasp for power. There seems to be a paranoia among feminists - they just know they are not being as well paid/well respected/well treated as their male counterparts. And this, all judging by the world’s standards, not the Bible’s. This paranoia leads to a host of evils.

I personally feel the feminist movement robbed me of the joy in being feminine, even as it stripped masculinity from men. How can we appreciate the neighboring sex appropriately, in purity, when the differences between us cannot be celebrated?

]]> By: Nicole http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-472107 Nicole Thu, 30 Apr 2009 19:19:13 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-472107 This is an inspiring article & the comments on it make me want to research the topic even more! Thank you for allowing me to grow in my relationship with Christ by providing a topic/issue to pray & meditate about! :) This is an inspiring article & the comments on it make me want to research the topic even more! Thank you for allowing me to grow in my relationship with Christ by providing a topic/issue to pray & meditate about! :)

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-468704 Rebecca Thu, 16 Apr 2009 13:56:40 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-468704 This article really is refreshing!! I am so happy to hear that others think the same way about this subject as i do!! For all of the women out there looking for a good continuation of this post read "Captivating" by John and Stasi Eldredge. It is an amazing book about the empowerment of women from a Godly stand point. This article really is refreshing!! I am so happy to hear that others think the same way about this subject as i do!! For all of the women out there looking for a good continuation of this post read “Captivating” by John and Stasi Eldredge. It is an amazing book about the empowerment of women from a Godly stand point.

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-467894 Jennifer Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:38:25 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-467894 Oh and Xeres, I think it'd be rather ridiculous to conclude that Jeffrey believes women and men are identical just because he believes they're equal. Don't you think? Oh and Xeres, I think it’d be rather ridiculous to conclude that Jeffrey believes women and men are identical just because he believes they’re equal. Don’t you think?

]]> By: Jennifer http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-467887 Jennifer Sun, 12 Apr 2009 17:15:41 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-467887 Indeed Jason, egalitarians do read the rest of the Bible, and it has loads of women practicing holy authority, leadership, and education of men; quoting Timothy as a means to keep women quiet won't get you anywhere. I think this is a very respectful article; I also know that Grudem has been extremely faulty in his research and I don't trust his writings in the least. I'd beware of what I exhort; it almost sounds as though you're saying women should call their husbands "lord", blasphemy and male dominance indeed. Indeed Jason, egalitarians do read the rest of the Bible, and it has loads of women practicing holy authority, leadership, and education of men; quoting Timothy as a means to keep women quiet won’t get you anywhere. I think this is a very respectful article; I also know that Grudem has been extremely faulty in his research and I don’t trust his writings in the least. I’d beware of what I exhort; it almost sounds as though you’re saying women should call their husbands “lord”, blasphemy and male dominance indeed.

]]> By: Irina H.F. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-461801 Irina H.F. Fri, 27 Mar 2009 20:46:06 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-461801 Hey Brett, just a follow up to my comment that I left above. One thing that you could do is write a follow-up to the above article, seeing as it's been,what, 5 years since you wrote it? Just a thought. Hey Brett, just a follow up to my comment that I left above. One thing that you could do is write a follow-up to the above article, seeing as it’s been,what, 5 years since you wrote it? Just a thought.

]]> By: Irina H. F. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-460387 Irina H. F. Tue, 24 Mar 2009 00:04:04 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2006/10/feminism-and-biblical-roles/#comment-460387 Also, another problem that has helped feminism take root in our culture today is the number of men who are soft. What I mean by this is that a WHOLE lot of men have simply not taken upon them the responsibilities of manhood, such as being a father and being the head of the household, so the women have been forced to fill the vacuum left by this abdication. Then, the men complain about their wives being domineering, when in fact,the original problem was caused by them. Plus, the church has gotten so soft on its teachings that no one has any real clue WHAT Biblical manhood and womanhood is anymore. I am one of those young women who simply has no use for a man who simply will not do his duty,by his family or by his wife. This may seem blunt to a lot of people, but it is the way I view things. A lot of the divorces in America would be "nipped in the bud" if the men would take responsibility for their families AND if the church would quit being so darn foggy in its teachings. I think that if every person who read this would make it a point of prayer to pray for revival in this area, awesome things would happen. "But if My people who are called by My name would humble themselves and pray...." Also, another problem that has helped feminism take root in our culture today is the number of men who are soft. What I mean by this is that a WHOLE lot of men have simply not taken upon them the responsibilities of manhood, such as being a father and being the head of the household, so the women have been forced to fill the vacuum left by this abdication. Then, the men complain about their wives being domineering, when in fact,the original problem was caused by them. Plus, the church has gotten so soft on its teachings that no one has any real clue WHAT Biblical manhood and womanhood is anymore. I am one of those young women who simply has no use for a man who simply will not do his duty,by his family or by his wife. This may seem blunt to a lot of people, but it is the way I view things. A lot of the divorces in America would be “nipped in the bud” if the men would take responsibility for their families AND if the church would quit being so darn foggy in its teachings. I think that if every person who read this would make it a point of prayer to pray for revival in this area, awesome things would happen.

“But if My people who are called by My name would humble themselves and pray….”

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