Comments on: The Responsibility of Modesty (Part Two) http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:37:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Tiffany Allen http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515469 Tiffany Allen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:59:15 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515469 Marian, i think thats cool but i am not wearing trousers............I do wear tight and short but.........since i am only eleven i dont wear ANYTHING reveling or well...........you get it.......I do wear bakinis tho........ :s Marian, i think thats cool but i am not wearing trousers…………I do wear tight and short but………since i am only eleven i dont wear ANYTHING reveling or well………..you get it…….I do wear bakinis tho……..
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]]> By: Tiffany Allen http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515467 Tiffany Allen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:55:40 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515467 Yah I agree with this so called "Me" thats cool! I am ony eleven! :) Yah I agree with this so called “Me” thats cool! I am ony eleven! :)

]]> By: me http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-512145 me Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:40:11 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-512145 This is really great. I love having guys' pionts of view and that was worded so perfectly. Thanks so much!!!! This is really great. I love having guys’ pionts of view and that was worded so perfectly. Thanks so much!!!!

]]> By: Marian http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-506292 Marian Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:51:37 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-506292 I am a feminist and an atheist and I've found this discussion so interesting. I like to dress modestly - and fashionably - and would feel very uncomfortable in anything tight or revealing. I wear trousers because I feel the cold very much and they are modest , smart, warm and easy with a jacket for work. The world around me is saturated with inappropriate sexually driven images and ideas. Apart from close friends, who naturally share some of my values, people are staggered when I comment on a garment as not suitable for me because it's too revealing. A typical conversation will go something like this: "But you've got such a great figure! So slim! You shouldn't have any hang-ups about it!" "Thank you, yes, I'm very happy with my figure." "So why aren't you showing it off?" "Well, it's private, it belongs to me and 'showing it off' doesn't respect my sense of privacy." "But you must have hang-ups then." "No, no... I'd happily use a communal changing room if it's female only. I'm not embarrassed or shy about my body, honestly." There's usually a short disbelieving stare here, and a sometimes the dawning of comprehension. I hope this post is interesting as to how a non-believing and feminist woman is also interested in modesty. As some people in the debate have noted, men have responsibilities in this regard too, both in their dress and behaviour. It is wrong to suggest that men cannot control themselves - that's like saying they are non-rational animals. As a final point, I try very hard not to judge immodestly dressed people. We are all under peer pressure and conditioned by society, and it can be very hard to fight that. I am a feminist and an atheist and I’ve found this discussion so interesting. I like to dress modestly - and fashionably - and would feel very uncomfortable in anything tight or revealing. I wear trousers because I feel the cold very much and they are modest , smart, warm and easy with a jacket for work. The world around me is saturated with inappropriate sexually driven images and ideas. Apart from close friends, who naturally share some of my values, people are staggered when I comment on a garment as not suitable for me because it’s too revealing. A typical conversation will go something like this:

“But you’ve got such a great figure! So slim! You shouldn’t have any hang-ups about it!”

“Thank you, yes, I’m very happy with my figure.”

“So why aren’t you showing it off?”

“Well, it’s private, it belongs to me and ’showing it off’ doesn’t respect my sense of privacy.”

“But you must have hang-ups then.”

“No, no… I’d happily use a communal changing room if it’s female only. I’m not embarrassed or shy about my body, honestly.”

There’s usually a short disbelieving stare here, and a sometimes the dawning of comprehension.

I hope this post is interesting as to how a non-believing and feminist woman is also interested in modesty. As some people in the debate have noted, men have responsibilities in this regard too, both in their dress and behaviour. It is wrong to suggest that men cannot control themselves - that’s like saying they are non-rational animals.

As a final point, I try very hard not to judge immodestly dressed people. We are all under peer pressure and conditioned by society, and it can be very hard to fight that.

]]> By: alyssa http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-502653 alyssa Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:34:20 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-502653 that is a great way of putting it thanks that is a great way of putting it thanks

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-501151 Kimberly Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:29:05 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-501151 All that was said was just so on track. I have know about the importance of modesty for years but how wonderful it is to hear the opinions of others my age that agree and want change too. He made such a good point. I see it as girls and women's commision from God and doing their part in helping their bothers not stumble is what it is all about. All that was said was just so on track. I have know about the importance of modesty for years but how wonderful it is to hear the opinions of others my age that agree and want change too. He made such a good point. I see it as girls and women’s commision from God and doing their part in helping their bothers not stumble is what it is all about.

]]> By: j.salem http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-491279 j.salem Tue, 30 Jun 2009 15:27:29 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-491279 thanks for it...it made me 'modesty' clearer to me and easier to define and to share to others! thanks for it…it made me ‘modesty’ clearer to me and easier to define and to share to others!

]]> By: Kate http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-481460 Kate Tue, 02 Jun 2009 03:11:31 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-481460 I cannot believe some of the responses on the actual survey. Seeing a girl lying down is immodest? It is a stumbling block for a girl to bend over (probably to pick something up) ?It is a stumbling block how girls walk? This is ridiculous. I consider myself to be a modest dresser, but that doesn't mean that I don't wear jeans (like when I go horseback riding, or hiking). However, this survey actually says that everything a normal woman would do is a stumbling block, and it has the audacity to call all women "girls". I got an idea. Women never leave the house, so as not to be a stumbling block. Isn't that what the Taliban did? And all in the name of God there too. . . . Hmm, I don't think that's what the bible was talking about. I cannot believe some of the responses on the actual survey. Seeing a girl lying down is immodest? It is a stumbling block for a girl to bend over (probably to pick something up) ?It is a stumbling block how girls walk? This is ridiculous. I consider myself to be a modest dresser, but that doesn’t mean that I don’t wear jeans (like when I go horseback riding, or hiking). However, this survey actually says that everything a normal woman would do is a stumbling block, and it has the audacity to call all women “girls”. I got an idea. Women never leave the house, so as not to be a stumbling block. Isn’t that what the Taliban did? And all in the name of God there too. . . . Hmm, I don’t think that’s what the bible was talking about.

]]> By: Andrew http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-475902 Andrew Fri, 15 May 2009 15:12:08 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-475902 Alex and Brett, Just want to commend you for encouraging those who are struggling to remain pure. Modesty is all about love. Love for your brothers in Christ; love for your sisters in Christ. It is an Absolute Truth that God’s word COMMANDS us to love others. It is an Absolute Truth that the Bible COMMANDS us to refrain from causing our brother to stumble. Guys are NOT the only ones who struggle with sexual temptation; Alex and Brett have made that clear. That is still completely beside the point. Girls, if you believe every word of the Bible, you will do your BEST to keep your brother from stumbling. The Bible says there is no greater love than laying down your life for a friend. IF you actually Love Others, as the Bible says, and IF laying down your life is the BEST way to show love, than you should WANT to sacrifice your “rights” for those around you. Guys, the exact same thing applies to you. Never be concerned about whether it's your right to wear a certain article of clothing, or whether others get away with more. Put aside the selfish desires; die to self. EVERYTHING you do should be showing love to others and your God. Modesty is simply part of sacrificing yourself for others. It’s a Biblical concept. It applies to everyone on the face of the earth. If you don’t believe EVERY WORD of the Bible, there is absolutely NO reason for you to dress modestly. IF you do believe that the Bible is God’s message to us, and are doing your best to follow it with your LIFE, than take the words of the Modesty Survey and other statements from your Christian Brothers and Sisters SERIOUSLY. God’s word says “Love others” and “Do not cause your brother to stumble”; Do your best! Lay down YOUR life for others! Alex and Brett,

Just want to commend you for encouraging those who are struggling to remain pure.

Modesty is all about love. Love for your brothers in Christ; love for your sisters in Christ. It is an Absolute Truth that God’s word COMMANDS us to love others. It is an Absolute Truth that the Bible COMMANDS us to refrain from causing our brother to stumble.

Guys are NOT the only ones who struggle with sexual temptation; Alex and Brett have made that clear. That is still completely beside the point. Girls, if you believe every word of the Bible, you will do your BEST to keep your brother from stumbling. The Bible says there is no greater love than laying down your life for a friend. IF you actually Love Others, as the Bible says, and IF laying down your life is the BEST way to show love, than you should WANT to sacrifice your “rights” for those around you. Guys, the exact same thing applies to you.

Never be concerned about whether it’s your right to wear a certain article of clothing, or whether others get away with more. Put aside the selfish desires; die to self. EVERYTHING you do should be showing love to others and your God.

Modesty is simply part of sacrificing yourself for others. It’s a Biblical concept. It applies to everyone on the face of the earth. If you don’t believe EVERY WORD of the Bible, there is absolutely NO reason for you to dress modestly.

IF you do believe that the Bible is God’s message to us, and are doing your best to follow it with your LIFE, than take the words of the Modesty Survey and other statements from your Christian Brothers and Sisters SERIOUSLY.

God’s word says “Love others” and “Do not cause your brother to stumble”;

Do your best! Lay down YOUR life for others!

]]> By: Andrew http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-475900 Andrew Fri, 15 May 2009 15:08:49 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-475900 Alex and Brett, Just want to commend you for encouraging those who are struggling to remain pure. Alex and Brett,

Just want to commend you for encouraging those who are struggling to remain pure.

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