Comments on: The Responsibility of Modesty (Part Two) http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:38:49 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Carrie Lynn http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-533092 Carrie Lynn Sat, 13 Feb 2010 21:29:11 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-533092 WOW! As a 52 year old woman, I cannot express my joy that this was started by youth, developed by youth and carried by youth. This is an important gospel principle. Thank you for being interested and up to the task! Carrie Lynn WOW! As a 52 year old woman, I cannot express my joy that this was started by youth, developed by youth and carried by youth.

This is an important gospel principle. Thank you for being interested and up to the task!

Carrie Lynn

]]> By: Amanda http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-525167 Amanda Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:36:03 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-525167 Havent read all the comments well said burlesque Im 40ish and do not consider jeans immodest.Iin fact some wear them at a church I attended I cant stand dresses and skirts all th time is Im not skinny anymore and it would be tacky to say the least Any piece of clothing can be immodest. Modesty is fine but young people are a bit misguided today in the 'purity' and 'modesty'.Ten foot long skirts do not prove Christianity one way or the other. Havent read all the comments well said burlesque Im 40ish and do not consider jeans immodest.Iin fact some wear them at a church I attended I cant stand dresses and skirts all th time is Im not skinny anymore and it would be tacky to say the least Any piece of clothing can be immodest. Modesty is fine but young people are a bit misguided today in the ‘purity’ and ‘modesty’.Ten foot long skirts do not prove Christianity one way or the other.

]]> By: Tzniut http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-525059 Tzniut Thu, 07 Jan 2010 19:18:24 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-525059 I think it is interesting how women of all faiths can unite through the idea of modesty. Obviously, this is a Christian site, but through Marian's post, and mine as on Orthodox Jew, obviously modesty is a larger-reaching issue. I believe one of the 'stumbling blocks' for women is the amount of attention men pay to immodest women. Men may say they like modest women, but when they chat up the girls in the short skirts and stare at the girls in the tank tops, it makes us feel less attractive simply because we are dressed modestly. If men really desire to help us help them, they should take care to notice and compliment women of modesty, and not with "Thank you for dressing modestly", which makes it sound like a job, but "You look lovely/beautiful/amazing", or something of that nature. It may sound silly to met, but this is important to us, and many of the women I know who struggle with modest dress, struggle because they wish to be noticed, and while women will notice an attractive adornment like a unique necklace or new shirt, men seem only to notice flesh sometimes. So while you are asking us to help you, help us! Stephanie, while it can be hard finding cute, fashionable modest clothing in stores, there are a number of online stores. Funky Frum, Frum but with it, and Sakura Rose are all wonderful modest online stores. I think it is interesting how women of all faiths can unite through the idea of modesty. Obviously, this is a Christian site, but through Marian’s post, and mine as on Orthodox Jew, obviously modesty is a larger-reaching issue.

I believe one of the ’stumbling blocks’ for women is the amount of attention men pay to immodest women. Men may say they like modest women, but when they chat up the girls in the short skirts and stare at the girls in the tank tops, it makes us feel less attractive simply because we are dressed modestly. If men really desire to help us help them, they should take care to notice and compliment women of modesty, and not with “Thank you for dressing modestly”, which makes it sound like a job, but “You look lovely/beautiful/amazing”, or something of that nature. It may sound silly to met, but this is important to us, and many of the women I know who struggle with modest dress, struggle because they wish to be noticed, and while women will notice an attractive adornment like a unique necklace or new shirt, men seem only to notice flesh sometimes. So while you are asking us to help you, help us!

Stephanie, while it can be hard finding cute, fashionable modest clothing in stores, there are a number of online stores. Funky Frum, Frum but with it, and Sakura Rose are all wonderful modest online stores.

]]> By: Lauren http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-524402 Lauren Fri, 01 Jan 2010 21:46:34 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-524402 Marian, i agree with you wholeheartedly on not judging those who might dress immodestly or differently than we do. Only by grace have i seen the problem with that. I am a Christian, but i can also identify with you the fact of not being embarassed of my body as much as wanting to cover it to be modest. But my reasons for covering it are different, for it is plain in the Bible that women are to be modest and not wanting to cause lust or a wrong attraction from men and guys. You will definately find a better guy if you are dressing modestly, because you can know they aren't just looking at your body, but your personality and your heart. You can definitely be attractive while still being modest, just because you cover up more doesn't mean guys aren't going to like you. i've seen living proof :) Marian, i agree with you wholeheartedly on not judging those who might dress immodestly or differently than we do. Only by grace have i seen the problem with that. I am a Christian, but i can also identify with you the fact of not being embarassed of my body as much as wanting to cover it to be modest. But my reasons for covering it are different, for it is plain in the Bible that women are to be modest and not wanting to cause lust or a wrong attraction from men and guys. You will definately find a better guy if you are dressing modestly, because you can know they aren’t just looking at your body, but your personality and your heart. You can definitely be attractive while still being modest, just because you cover up more doesn’t mean guys aren’t going to like you. i’ve seen living proof :)

]]> By: Tiffany Allen http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515469 Tiffany Allen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:59:15 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515469 Marian, i think thats cool but i am not wearing trousers............I do wear tight and short but.........since i am only eleven i dont wear ANYTHING reveling or well...........you get it.......I do wear bakinis tho........ :s Marian, i think thats cool but i am not wearing trousers…………I do wear tight and short but………since i am only eleven i dont wear ANYTHING reveling or well………..you get it…….I do wear bakinis tho……..
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]]> By: Tiffany Allen http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515467 Tiffany Allen Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:55:40 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-515467 Yah I agree with this so called "Me" thats cool! I am ony eleven! :) Yah I agree with this so called “Me” thats cool! I am ony eleven! :)

]]> By: me http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-512145 me Fri, 23 Oct 2009 01:40:11 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-512145 This is really great. I love having guys' pionts of view and that was worded so perfectly. Thanks so much!!!! This is really great. I love having guys’ pionts of view and that was worded so perfectly. Thanks so much!!!!

]]> By: Marian http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-506292 Marian Sun, 13 Sep 2009 07:51:37 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-506292 I am a feminist and an atheist and I've found this discussion so interesting. I like to dress modestly - and fashionably - and would feel very uncomfortable in anything tight or revealing. I wear trousers because I feel the cold very much and they are modest , smart, warm and easy with a jacket for work. The world around me is saturated with inappropriate sexually driven images and ideas. Apart from close friends, who naturally share some of my values, people are staggered when I comment on a garment as not suitable for me because it's too revealing. A typical conversation will go something like this: "But you've got such a great figure! So slim! You shouldn't have any hang-ups about it!" "Thank you, yes, I'm very happy with my figure." "So why aren't you showing it off?" "Well, it's private, it belongs to me and 'showing it off' doesn't respect my sense of privacy." "But you must have hang-ups then." "No, no... I'd happily use a communal changing room if it's female only. I'm not embarrassed or shy about my body, honestly." There's usually a short disbelieving stare here, and a sometimes the dawning of comprehension. I hope this post is interesting as to how a non-believing and feminist woman is also interested in modesty. As some people in the debate have noted, men have responsibilities in this regard too, both in their dress and behaviour. It is wrong to suggest that men cannot control themselves - that's like saying they are non-rational animals. As a final point, I try very hard not to judge immodestly dressed people. We are all under peer pressure and conditioned by society, and it can be very hard to fight that. I am a feminist and an atheist and I’ve found this discussion so interesting. I like to dress modestly - and fashionably - and would feel very uncomfortable in anything tight or revealing. I wear trousers because I feel the cold very much and they are modest , smart, warm and easy with a jacket for work. The world around me is saturated with inappropriate sexually driven images and ideas. Apart from close friends, who naturally share some of my values, people are staggered when I comment on a garment as not suitable for me because it’s too revealing. A typical conversation will go something like this:

“But you’ve got such a great figure! So slim! You shouldn’t have any hang-ups about it!”

“Thank you, yes, I’m very happy with my figure.”

“So why aren’t you showing it off?”

“Well, it’s private, it belongs to me and ’showing it off’ doesn’t respect my sense of privacy.”

“But you must have hang-ups then.”

“No, no… I’d happily use a communal changing room if it’s female only. I’m not embarrassed or shy about my body, honestly.”

There’s usually a short disbelieving stare here, and a sometimes the dawning of comprehension.

I hope this post is interesting as to how a non-believing and feminist woman is also interested in modesty. As some people in the debate have noted, men have responsibilities in this regard too, both in their dress and behaviour. It is wrong to suggest that men cannot control themselves - that’s like saying they are non-rational animals.

As a final point, I try very hard not to judge immodestly dressed people. We are all under peer pressure and conditioned by society, and it can be very hard to fight that.

]]> By: alyssa http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-502653 alyssa Mon, 24 Aug 2009 21:34:20 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-502653 that is a great way of putting it thanks that is a great way of putting it thanks

]]> By: Kimberly http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-501151 Kimberly Mon, 17 Aug 2009 21:29:05 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/02/the-responsibility-of-modesty-part-two/#comment-501151 All that was said was just so on track. I have know about the importance of modesty for years but how wonderful it is to hear the opinions of others my age that agree and want change too. He made such a good point. I see it as girls and women's commision from God and doing their part in helping their bothers not stumble is what it is all about. All that was said was just so on track. I have know about the importance of modesty for years but how wonderful it is to hear the opinions of others my age that agree and want change too. He made such a good point. I see it as girls and women’s commision from God and doing their part in helping their bothers not stumble is what it is all about.

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