Comments on: Fred Stoeker On The Modesty Survey http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Sat, 21 Nov 2009 08:48:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Debs http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-510884 Debs Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:18:48 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-510884 amen - this is great thx for posting it! amen - this is great thx for posting it!

]]> By: Emily http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-503621 Emily Thu, 27 Aug 2009 16:59:44 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-503621 "While that is frustrating in its own way, their real frustration comes when we only pay attention to the girls in our youth groups that dress hot, while ignoring the ones who dress modestly and chase after God. We expect the women to protect us from our own visual nature by dressing modestly, while doing little to rise above that nature ourselves, allowing them to be penalized twice over for our nature Who can blame the girl who throws up her hands and snaps, I’m through worrying about this modesty thing! Their eyes are their problem, not mine!" Guys: this is SO true. If you appreciate modesty, show it! “While that is frustrating in its own way, their real frustration comes when we only pay attention to the girls in our youth groups that dress hot, while ignoring the ones who dress modestly and chase after God. We expect the women to protect us from our own visual nature by dressing modestly, while doing little to rise above that nature ourselves, allowing them to be penalized twice over for our nature

Who can blame the girl who throws up her hands and snaps, I’m through worrying about this modesty thing! Their eyes are their problem, not mine!”

Guys: this is SO true. If you appreciate modesty, show it!

]]> By: kiley h. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-492529 kiley h. Mon, 06 Jul 2009 19:33:33 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-492529 thank you so much for the great post! i agree that we need to help our brother's in christ out by choosing to dress modestly, but i also appreciate that Mr. Stoeker realizes the responsability guy's have in this issue and how he encourages them to realize just how hard it is for us girls to stay strong!! but we can do all things through christ-thank you jesus!! and thank you to all those who participated in the modesty survey! thank you so much for the great post! i agree that we need to help our brother’s in christ out by choosing to dress modestly, but i also appreciate that Mr. Stoeker realizes the responsability guy’s have in this issue and how he encourages them to realize just how hard it is for us girls to stay strong!! but we can do all things through christ-thank you jesus!! and thank you to all those who participated in the modesty survey!

]]> By: Cynic Sage http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-134744 Cynic Sage Sat, 06 Oct 2007 22:59:44 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-134744 <a href=\"http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-71053\" rel=\"nofollow\" rel="nofollow">LML, if you draw attention to how modestly you dress, you cease to be modest.</a> LML, if you draw attention to how modestly you dress, you cease to be modest.

]]> By: sabrina http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-114305 sabrina Sun, 19 Aug 2007 06:43:24 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-114305 great. i love articles that show how the wise and powerful male can "train" women how to act. how about women wear what they want and men not objectify them and see them as sexual objects? hmm....i guess the only way for a man not to become a drooling mass of hormones is for a woman to be covered up. funny how that is a woman's problem...that they need to "line up in modesty". here's a thought...how about a guy that can actually hold a whole conversation without objectifying and victimizing a woman?? great. i love articles that show how the wise and powerful male can “train” women how to act. how about women wear what they want and men not objectify them and see them as sexual objects? hmm….i guess the only way for a man not to become a drooling mass of hormones is for a woman to be covered up. funny how that is a woman’s problem…that they need to “line up in modesty”. here’s a thought…how about a guy that can actually hold a whole conversation without objectifying and victimizing a woman??

]]> By: Alyssa L. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-83848 Alyssa L. Fri, 01 Jun 2007 19:28:42 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-83848 just want to say sorry if I was too harsh in that last comment...I think the others who commented are exactly right when they say that being jealous of immodest girls is a pride issue....that certainly played a role in my case. And I think we should remember that we have a responsibility to help guys out in this area...even if they seem not to appreciate it. just want to say sorry if I was too harsh in that last comment…I think the others who commented are exactly right when they say that being jealous of immodest girls is a pride issue….that certainly played a role in my case. And I think we should remember that we have a responsibility to help guys out in this area…even if they seem not to appreciate it.

]]> By: Alyssa L. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-82580 Alyssa L. Wed, 30 May 2007 20:11:35 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-82580 yeah, this is great. Recently I really struggled with dressing modestly, all the guys went after the girls they thought were hot. And Satan was screaming at me, "You can look like that! You could attract their attention! Why not show off your goods--just a little." Thank God, I withstood the temptation, and I realized, do I really want a guy who is chases girls like that? The godly guys aren't going to be the ones in hot pursuit. Just a thought . . . and thanks for the encouragement. yeah, this is great. Recently I really struggled with dressing modestly, all the guys went after the girls they thought were hot. And Satan was screaming at me, “You can look like that! You could attract their attention! Why not show off your goods–just a little.” Thank God, I withstood the temptation, and I realized, do I really want a guy who is chases girls like that? The godly guys aren’t going to be the ones in hot pursuit. Just a thought . . . and thanks for the encouragement.

]]> By: Stacie http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-75533 Stacie Thu, 10 May 2007 02:22:52 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-75533 amen! I am glad that you guys notice when girls dress modestly. "but your inner beauty which is of a gentle and quiet spirit is of great worth to God." GOD BLESS YA, amen! I am glad that you guys notice when girls dress modestly. “but your inner beauty which is of a gentle and quiet spirit is of great worth to God.” GOD BLESS YA,

]]> By: LML http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-71053 LML Fri, 27 Apr 2007 04:36:23 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-71053 Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you for posting this!! It is such an encouragement to me!!! I want to dress in a God-honoring way, whether or not the young men around me appreciate it, but I gotta admit it's a lot easier when i don't have guy-friends around me talking about how pretty whatevergirl-wearing-a-skimpy-skirt is... Part of it is pride, I know... Thank-you, thank-you, thank-you for posting this!!
It is such an encouragement to me!!! I want to dress in a God-honoring way, whether or not the young men around me appreciate it, but I gotta admit it’s a lot easier when i don’t have guy-friends around me talking about how pretty whatevergirl-wearing-a-skimpy-skirt is… Part of it is pride, I know…

]]> By: Daisy http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-70850 Daisy Thu, 26 Apr 2007 21:12:24 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/fred-stoeker-on-the-modesty-survey/#comment-70850 Interesting. Apparently in the Orthodox Jewish community, where women are encouraged to cover even their hair, the men purposely look away or down when addressing immodestly dressed women and end the conversation as soon as possible. They also avod being in the room alone with any woman. That seems extreme to me but I could see guys truly interested in perserving their hearts taking the same tack with immodestly dressed women. If enough quality guys behaved this way I think a lot of women would change the way they dress because they'd feel uncomfortable being avoided. Interesting. Apparently in the Orthodox Jewish community, where women are encouraged to cover even their hair, the men purposely look away or down when addressing immodestly dressed women and end the conversation as soon as possible. They also avod being in the room alone with any woman. That seems extreme to me but I could see guys truly interested in perserving their hearts taking the same tack with immodestly dressed women. If enough quality guys behaved this way I think a lot of women would change the way they dress because they’d feel uncomfortable being avoided.

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