Comments on: Joshua Harris On The Modesty Survey

by: Tierney

Sat, 03 Jan 2009 06:11:00 +0000

Hey! The Modesty Survey is a huge blessing to me. I’ve been struggling with accepting my appearance and withstanding the pressures of immodesty. Reading the results of the survey cheers me up and helps me realize how important it is to persevere in my struggle to stay pure and modest to uphold God’s will.
(I’m not saying I’m trying to be perfect, cause we all know only God is perfect, I’m just saying I want to be a good strong Christian who shines with God’s love and character through my attitude and my modesty ^_^) Thanks again, Alex and Brett!

by: Lora

Sun, 14 Dec 2008 15:55:53 +0000

Amen!The Modesty Survey has been a big blessing in my life.Keep ur the good work!!!

by: Anonymous

Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:52:49 +0000

i agree with Kirsten, It is nice to see the desire to want females to dress more modestly, but, AgapeAddict, I hate it when men say that it’s all the woman’s fault. In this modern day world, it is VERY HARD to dress modest….(note: i didn’t say impossible..just hard) even just the normal t-shirts are usually very tight. The men are at just as much fault. While 95% of the modesty issue is pointed at the females, men can dress immodestly too. Take for example, shirts that are too tight to show off the muscles underneath, or pants that ride low. I wonder if some people realize that just as the females body can arouse a man and cause him to stumble, a man’s body can do the same for a woman. So, yes, women need to put more effort in dressing modestly…but so does men!!!

by: Hannah

Tue, 21 Oct 2008 21:46:30 +0000

I also, like Alyssa, hate to see that alot of times guys go for the girls who are very flirty, and dress in a way that has the same meaning. while you want guys to like you, you don’t want to become like that, but it’s hard to get the response you naturaly want to get from guys (for them to like, and pay attention to you) and yet, not be immodest or impure just to get guys attention. in the end it should be, that the guy that god planned for you, would love you for who you are and not what you dress like or look like.
because, what you want all along, is probably for a guy to like you and for it to be “real”.
i think that, if you dress immodestly and act in a way, just to get guys attention, it would be easier for it not be real, and just something that came because of the way you were dressing and acting, and be something that wouldn’t last.

by: Kirsten Gruber

Mon, 17 Sep 2007 01:06:18 +0000

AgappeAddict– While your zeal to see female modesty happen in our culture is good, it seems that there are a couple things you may have mistakenly failed to think about:
It is not ALWAYS the woman’s fault when a man stumbles and looks on impurely. We can try to cover up as much as humanly possible, and some men would still lustfully look like that. That is not our faults. Just like if we dress modestly and someone still looks at us like that. However, if the woman dresses in a way that is immodest and scanty, it is both the woman and the man’s fault (the woman’s for encouraging the lust; and the man’s for not looking away).

And secondly, I feel you are using logic incorrectly. You are using it in a way that you define your own terms. The goal of logic is to learn the art and science of reasoning well. This cannot be done if you are using your own terms and manipulating them to fit your opinions (such would be described as persuasive definitions, would they not?). True, the Law of Non Contradiction is two statements can’t be true and false a the same time. True, the law of Excluded Middle means it is only true or false (no grey areas). But your premise of “That is the modesty survey’s logical endpoint [for women to dress islamic style].” But the fact is: THAT IS NOT THE LOGICAL ENDPOINT. The logical endpoint is for women to dress modestly. Your error in logic cause you to come to a different conclusion. You’re assuming that the definition of modestly is to “dress islamic style.” But the definition is to dress in a way pleasing to God. Is it not? Thus the correct conclusion is to dress in a way pleasing to God. And that is exactly what the modesty survey was about.

I am sorry if that may have felt like a slap in the face. It is nice to know someone else likes logic, but logic is only useful if it is used to come to the correct conclusion. Thank you!
In His Service,
~Kirsten A. Gruber

by: Robin

Fri, 01 Jun 2007 02:05:17 +0000

Thank you, dear brothers, for your humility and honesty. As a young lady seeking to “walk in a manner worthy of the Lord, to please Him in all respecets”(Col. 1) , my heart rejoices to see a turning away from immodesty toward purity and holiness. Young ladies do have a responsibility to love our brothers in such a way that we examine extensively our own hearts( Psalm 139:23-24, Matt. 12:35, 1st Chron. 29:17a) and strive to present ourselves blameless and pure, exemplifying the characteristics of 1st Peter 3:3-4 and 1st Timothy 2:9-10 in our actions, attitudes, and dress. To look inside ourselves as we gaze into the mirror of God’s word, ready and willing to learn, repent, and submit, praying for more grace that we might glorify God and live in a way pleasing to him is seemingly the most crucial point upon which our wardrobe is formed, as well as every area of our lives. Thank you for reminding us of this truth. May God richly bless you as you seek to dwell in the deepest recesses of Him.

by: Brett Harris

Sat, 12 May 2007 04:47:43 +0000

Alyssa: You are absolutely right. Signing a petition isn't enough. You should read what Fred Stoeker (best-selling author of Every Man's Battle series) had to say to challenge the guys who participated in The Modesty Survey. =)

by: Alyssa Lehman

Sat, 12 May 2007 01:46:55 +0000

I would like to make an observation that some of you may not have thought of. I think it’s great that so many guys joined in the modesty survey and signed the petition. But I have to confess, I’m still cynical. Guys’ actions speak louder than words. And I see guys–not just the rebellious ones–going for immodest, flirtatious girls. What am I supposed to think? I know they would tell me that they would support my decision to dress modestly, but then why are they dating girls who are very immodest? I know I don’t fully realize the power a girl holds over a guy, but I think something is wrong here.

by: Stacie

Wed, 09 May 2007 19:55:42 +0000

Modesty is so important. It makes me so sad to Christian girls looking just like everyone else. Thank you so much for bringing that up! GOD bless you all!

by: Alex Jordan Harris

Thu, 03 May 2007 04:13:30 +0000

To be honest, I’m not really sure what there is to discuss. We agree with all three of the premises you listed. It is true that the female form, while a contributor to arousal, is not always the sole factor, nor in some cases even a necessary factor in male arousal. It is also true that not all response to visual stimulation is impure. God made men and (to a lesser extent) women to respond sexually to visual stimuli. That natural reaction, in itself, is not wrong. Finally, it is true that women have neither the responsibility nor the ability to control men’s thoughts. A man is wholly responsible for his own thoughts and actions and will stand before God to give an account for them. The immature “she was dressed immodestly” or the foolish “boys will be boys” excuse are just that: immature and foolish.

Understanding the (great) extent of our agreement, I must ask you to discontinue arguing. If you have further thoughts you would like to share with my brother and me, I encourage you to email us. As it stands, your two comments have been almost entirely unrelated to the purpose and message of the post and seem to demonstrate that you have not actually read much of what we have already written explaining the Survey and our position on the issues of modesty, love, and responsibility.

Thanks for understanding. God bless!