Comments on: Taking Heat for The Modesty Survey http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Thu, 18 Mar 2010 07:45:57 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: EM http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-533830 EM Wed, 17 Feb 2010 01:53:46 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-533830 just some questions.... Alex or Brett: -do you think its wrong for a girl to try and dress as attractively as possible and spend time doing her hair and wearing fashioable clothes? - Do you think we should stand out as "very modest dressers" or just make sure we are not very obviously seeking attention through are dress? -what verses can you give me addresing this subject?? just some questions….

Alex or Brett:
-do you think its wrong for a girl to try and dress as attractively as possible and spend time doing her hair and wearing fashioable clothes?
- Do you think we should stand out as “very modest dressers” or just make sure we are not very obviously seeking attention through are dress?
-what verses can you give me addresing this subject??

]]> By: Lizzy http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-530418 Lizzy Sun, 31 Jan 2010 15:39:36 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-530418 You guys, keep up the good work! I was amazed at some of the Modesty Survey results! I didn't know the way I stretch or dress or do things in public was even thought about! I now have to think before picking my wardrobe in the morning. I don't want to advertise myself when I go to church or walk down the streets! Thanks for all of this, I'll try to take myself into mind from now on! You guys, keep up the good work! I was amazed at some of the Modesty Survey results! I didn’t know the way I stretch or dress or do things in public was even thought about! I now have to think before picking my wardrobe in the morning. I don’t want to advertise myself when I go to church or walk down the streets! Thanks for all of this, I’ll try to take myself into mind from now on!

]]> By: Sarah Althea http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-512368 Sarah Althea Fri, 23 Oct 2009 14:50:50 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-512368 Thank ya'll soo much! the survey is very helpful. i had no idea that some of the ways i thought i was being "modest(er)" , is a stumbling block to so many. again, thanks! Thank ya’ll soo much! the survey is very helpful. i had no idea that some of the ways i thought i was being “modest(er)” , is a stumbling block to so many. again, thanks!

]]> By: Nala http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-511605 Nala Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:56:40 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-511605 I was personally very impressed with the results of the survey. I was highly encouraged to see people take a stand when it comes to dressing/modesty. I was personally very impressed with the results of the survey. I was highly encouraged to see people take a stand when it comes to dressing/modesty.

]]> By: Jae http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-509775 Jae Wed, 07 Oct 2009 00:50:31 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-509775 Alex and Brett: I came across your website today and you guys amaze me! I come from a place where there are no Christians and it's tough to do the right thing. The guys here are jerks, and I've come to believe that all guys are like that. Thank you for letting me see that there are godly guys out there, that there are guys who will respect us! This survey is great, thank you so much... some things we really don't realize you guys find it immodest. Alex and Brett:
I came across your website today and you guys amaze me! I come from a place where there are no Christians and it’s tough to do the right thing. The guys here are jerks, and I’ve come to believe that all guys are like that. Thank you for letting me see that there are godly guys out there, that there are guys who will respect us! This survey is great, thank you so much… some things we really don’t realize you guys find it immodest.

]]> By: Rachel http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-509077 Rachel Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:56:53 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-509077 Thanks so much for this Survey! It is really helpful! Thanks so much for this Survey! It is really helpful!

]]> By: Peg http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-508984 Peg Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:12:53 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-508984 I know this is totally off the subject... but since both criticism and support for the modesty survey has been well hashed out and covered, let me just say that I am all for modesty. I would love to see a topic covered- perhaps in a survey??- that has through experience taught me that guys have a power they wield in much the same way as girls wield their bodies. Flirting. Let's face it, in much the same way as guys are easily attracted to girl's bodies, we girls are all too quick to give our hearts away to the charmers, the players, the ever-so-manipulative young men who enjoy leading a girl on and then dropping her in frustration, hurt, and depression while he moves on to another one. Yet, why is it that modest dressing is at the top of many discussions in Christian circles, yet the many broken hearts that keep shattering at the hands of callous guys never get addressed. The parallels are much the same. Girls have a responsibility to guard their heart, as guys must guard their eyes. Yet, when guys knowingly use their powerful personality and masculine dominance to make a girl feel special when she actually means nothing to him, it is as damaging as when a girl flaunts her body to a guy but then gets upset when he fails to look her in the eyes when she speaks to him. I have been married for over three years, and this is a subject my husband and I have often discussed. Perhaps if we took some of the pain and desperation out of the shattered hearts that have been used by our very own Christian men, we might see less of girls dressing immodestly to get attention in the only way that really gets to the guys. There's a power on both sides of the board here- I applaud the attempts here to tame the one, but are we ever going to see real honesty about the other? I know this is totally off the subject… but since both criticism and support for the modesty survey has been well hashed out and covered, let me just say that I am all for modesty.
I would love to see a topic covered- perhaps in a survey??- that has through experience taught me that guys have a power they wield in much the same way as girls wield their bodies.
Flirting.
Let’s face it, in much the same way as guys are easily attracted to girl’s bodies, we girls are all too quick to give our hearts away to the charmers, the players, the ever-so-manipulative young men who enjoy leading a girl on and then dropping her in frustration, hurt, and depression while he moves on to another one. Yet, why is it that modest dressing is at the top of many discussions in Christian circles, yet the many broken hearts that keep shattering at the hands of callous guys never get addressed.
The parallels are much the same. Girls have a responsibility to guard their heart, as guys must guard their eyes. Yet, when guys knowingly use their powerful personality and masculine dominance to make a girl feel special when she actually means nothing to him, it is as damaging as when a girl flaunts her body to a guy but then gets upset when he fails to look her in the eyes when she speaks to him.
I have been married for over three years, and this is a subject my husband and I have often discussed. Perhaps if we took some of the pain and desperation out of the shattered hearts that have been used by our very own Christian men, we might see less of girls dressing immodestly to get attention in the only way that really gets to the guys.
There’s a power on both sides of the board here- I applaud the attempts here to tame the one, but are we ever going to see real honesty about the other?

]]> By: Lauren http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-507063 Lauren Fri, 18 Sep 2009 17:35:19 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-507063 Thank you so much for your survey!!!! I am new to this website and am eternally grateful to you guys for providing this information. I am going to share it with all my girlfriends! God Bless Thank you so much for your survey!!!! I am new to this website and am eternally grateful to you guys for providing this information. I am going to share it with all my girlfriends!
God Bless

]]> By: Melissa http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-506803 Melissa Wed, 16 Sep 2009 20:29:51 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-506803 Thank you so much for the survey. I only found it a little while back, and I've been really encouraging some friends of mine to look at it. The response has been kind of negative, but I just smile and hope it's nagging them even while they tell me how ridiculous it is. And is it really surprising that ya'll would take flak for it? I think it would have been surprising if you hadn't. Remember that those same women who have added your names to their hate-list, have read the stuff, or at least seen it. That means they know a little more about modesty than they did before. Even if its just that guys are aggravated at their choice of clothes. My favorite was the makeup. It's been my private opinion (backed by several random comments through the last year) that guys don't even know it when girls wear makeup. More than that, the girls don't wear it for the guys. Who are we wearing it for? Girls, of course! In other words, our makeup is an attempt to put us one notch higher in the envy of other girls. It's a shore-'nough pecking order. How mature. Thank you so much for the survey. I only found it a little while back, and I’ve been really encouraging some friends of mine to look at it. The response has been kind of negative, but I just smile and hope it’s nagging them even while they tell me how ridiculous it is.
And is it really surprising that ya’ll would take flak for it? I think it would have been surprising if you hadn’t. Remember that those same women who have added your names to their hate-list, have read the stuff, or at least seen it. That means they know a little more about modesty than they did before. Even if its just that guys are aggravated at their choice of clothes.
My favorite was the makeup. It’s been my private opinion (backed by several random comments through the last year) that guys don’t even know it when girls wear makeup. More than that, the girls don’t wear it for the guys. Who are we wearing it for? Girls, of course!
In other words, our makeup is an attempt to put us one notch higher in the envy of other girls. It’s a shore-’nough pecking order. How mature.

]]> By: Ed Abd Al Ghafur http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-505484 Ed Abd Al Ghafur Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:13:58 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/04/taking-heat-for-the-modesty-survey/#comment-505484 Hi guys, I'm a Muslim, and I'm struck by the similarity of the conversation that takes place here, with the conversation that takes place in Muslim communities on the subject of modesty. We have similar exhortations from scripture and primary religious sources to be modest, a similar inherent appreciation of the virtue of modesty, and also similar objections made by some who see things taken too far (e.g. legislated modesty or the objection of disproportionate emphasis on the genders). I'd hope that the similarity in conversation encourages you all to see beyond the media hype regarding Islam. Just as many Christian women here own their modesty and are proud of it- many Muslim women who wear headscarves feel the same way and would make similar comments. The next time you see a Muslim woman wearing a headscarf with whom you are sharing a class, bring up the topic of modesty and you'll be in for some surprises. Best Wishes. Ed Hi guys,

I’m a Muslim, and I’m struck by the similarity of the conversation that takes place here, with the conversation that takes place in Muslim communities on the subject of modesty. We have similar exhortations from scripture and primary religious sources to be modest, a similar inherent appreciation of the virtue of modesty, and also similar objections made by some who see things taken too far (e.g. legislated modesty or the objection of disproportionate emphasis on the genders).

I’d hope that the similarity in conversation encourages you all to see beyond the media hype regarding Islam. Just as many Christian women here own their modesty and are proud of it- many Muslim women who wear headscarves feel the same way and would make similar comments. The next time you see a Muslim woman wearing a headscarf with whom you are sharing a class, bring up the topic of modesty and you’ll be in for some surprises.

Best Wishes.

Ed

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