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	<description>reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations</description>
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		<title>By: Sara W.</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-1251430</link>
		<dc:creator>Sara W.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jan 2012 02:51:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this is great! thx for posting... im praying that she comes to know Jesus as her Savior and gives him credit for her amazing abilities!! God bless...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this is great! thx for posting&#8230; im praying that she comes to know Jesus as her Savior and gives him credit for her amazing abilities!! God bless&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: cuff</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-1136575</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Nov 2011 21:13:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-934687</link>
		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 19:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I greatly admire Olivia's drive, passion and determination to be a doctor. What she said was so wise and encouraging. God bless her and praise God!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I greatly admire Olivia&#8217;s drive, passion and determination to be a doctor. What she said was so wise and encouraging. God bless her and praise God!</p>
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		<title>By: Corinna</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-932788</link>
		<dc:creator>Corinna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 20:00:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You may "not like the 'prodigy' label", but neurologically, there are some individuals  whose cognitive processes (with which the frontal cortex is associated) develop at an advanced rate, beyond the norm. There are a whole list of characteristics associated with genius that high intelligence does not share. There is a difference between the "bright" child and the "gifted" child. I know that for a fact, as I have spent a months studying about it. I know gifted people, and I know bright people. There is a difference.

This article was an inspiration to me, as I feel God has called me to science. 

Everyone is talented.

Not everyone is a genius.

Everyone has some little bit of beauty.

Talent is precious, genius more so.

There is a difference between genius and high intelligence.

I believe that God has given talents to everyone, and I hope to encourage and inspire people to use those talents. Hard work, determination, ambition, faith and passion will get you further than talent alone. Talent is a booster. Combined with the above character traits is can go to the stars, but is nothing without God. God, talent, hard work, passion, faith and determination can get you anywhere!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You may &#8220;not like the &#8216;prodigy&#8217; label&#8221;, but neurologically, there are some individuals  whose cognitive processes (with which the frontal cortex is associated) develop at an advanced rate, beyond the norm. There are a whole list of characteristics associated with genius that high intelligence does not share. There is a difference between the &#8220;bright&#8221; child and the &#8220;gifted&#8221; child. I know that for a fact, as I have spent a months studying about it. I know gifted people, and I know bright people. There is a difference.</p>
<p>This article was an inspiration to me, as I feel God has called me to science. </p>
<p>Everyone is talented.</p>
<p>Not everyone is a genius.</p>
<p>Everyone has some little bit of beauty.</p>
<p>Talent is precious, genius more so.</p>
<p>There is a difference between genius and high intelligence.</p>
<p>I believe that God has given talents to everyone, and I hope to encourage and inspire people to use those talents. Hard work, determination, ambition, faith and passion will get you further than talent alone. Talent is a booster. Combined with the above character traits is can go to the stars, but is nothing without God. God, talent, hard work, passion, faith and determination can get you anywhere!</p>
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		<title>By: bekah m.</title>
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		<dc:creator>bekah m.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Nov 2010 02:29:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow. it just goes to show you what a young person can do when they actually WORK for something. we, as christian young people can do so much more if we apply our hearts and minds. if allow Christ to be our driving force we can accomplish much in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow. it just goes to show you what a young person can do when they actually WORK for something. we, as christian young people can do so much more if we apply our hearts and minds. if allow Christ to be our driving force we can accomplish much in life.</p>
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		<title>By: Ward Tongen</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-546180</link>
		<dc:creator>Ward Tongen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Apr 2010 16:06:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eva Vertes is obviously a passionate reader.  I wonder if she has read "Protector" by Larry Niven. It's a science fiction story about the first human to find and consume a catalyst that turns him into a Pak Protector. The unknown 3rd stage of humans. 
"At about middle age, homo habilis was supposed to eat a certain plant that would trigger the change to the sexless, armored, highly intelligent protectors that defend the human race."
This is analogous to her theory that cancer cells are suppose to end up differentiating into healing tissue instead of rogue harmful cells. What is the trigger?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eva Vertes is obviously a passionate reader.  I wonder if she has read &#8220;Protector&#8221; by Larry Niven. It&#8217;s a science fiction story about the first human to find and consume a catalyst that turns him into a Pak Protector. The unknown 3rd stage of humans.<br />
&#8220;At about middle age, homo habilis was supposed to eat a certain plant that would trigger the change to the sexless, armored, highly intelligent protectors that defend the human race.&#8221;<br />
This is analogous to her theory that cancer cells are suppose to end up differentiating into healing tissue instead of rogue harmful cells. What is the trigger?</p>
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		<title>By: How to Get Six Pack Fast</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Apr 2009 17:49:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Leandrie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Leandrie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What an inspiration! Reading about Eva Vertes and watching the fascinating video motivated me to study chemistry with extra vigor today. Her ideas on cancer and specifically the idea about "manipulation" instead of "elimination" are thought provoking indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What an inspiration! Reading about Eva Vertes and watching the fascinating video motivated me to study chemistry with extra vigor today. Her ideas on cancer and specifically the idea about &#8220;manipulation&#8221; instead of &#8220;elimination&#8221; are thought provoking indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Jordan Harris</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-109842</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex Jordan Harris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 02:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don't worry, we don't censor comments because people disagree with us or say something we don't like, otherwise, we could have removed your first comment and saved the trouble of this whole discussion. However, we do remove comments where readers intentionally disregard a repeated, clear request. ;)

With that aside, thank you for the apology on the issue of stem cells, Burton. I appreciate that. 

I think part of the problem you have with this article is based on a misunderstanding of what this website is all about. The Rebelution is defined as "a teenage rebellion against low expectations." We share Eva's story because it is an example of a young person using their teen years as a launching pad, rather than as a vacation from responsibility.

I would assume you don't have a problem with any of that—the primary thrust and purpose of the article. What you do have a problem with is that we brought in God, Jesus, and the Bible as a reason for our reader's to follow Eva's example.

You claim that science and faith are diametrically opposed. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even secular scientists Whitehead and Oppenheimer said that modern science couldn't have been born apart from the environment created by Christianity. Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, Bacon, all the way up to Newton, Faraday, and Maxwell, ushered in the modern scientific era by understanding that there was a universe because God had made it and that because God was a reasonable God, man could discover the truth of the universe by reason.

So no, there is no conflict between science and Christianity, between reason and faith. The conflict here is between a biblical worldview, which believes there is a God, and naturalism, which believes there is not. Biblical Christianity provides a foundation for scientific endeavor -- a reasonable God who created a reasonable world and gave us rational minds with which to accurately reason and arrive at truth. Naturalism does not provide that foundation -- implying rather an unguided evolutionary process and a high unlikelihood that our cognitive faculties are consistently reliable. In that, it is a self-defeating philosophy. This isn't to denounce the work of non-Christian scientists, only to point out that they must necessarily borrow from the Christianity to avoid the logical end of their worldview: Hume's skepticism.

It is interesting that you bring up Dawkins. I watched the TED video (all 29 minutes and 22 seconds of it), and had already read detailed synopses of &lt;i&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/i&gt;, which is, pretty much, the expanded version of his talk. His increasingly "religious" hatred of religion (and Christianity in particular) is far less scientific than it is personal, as well as philosophic, which certainly isn't his forte. Alvin Plantinga, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame, wrote about The God Delusion:

&lt;i&gt;"Now despite the fact that this book is mainly philosophy, Dawkins is not a philosopher (he's a biologist). Even taking this into account, however, much of the philosophy he purveys is at best jejune. You might say that some of his forays into philosophy are at best sophomoric, but that would be unfair to sophomores; the fact is (grade inflation aside), many of his arguments would receive a failing grade in a sophomore philosophy class."&lt;/i&gt; 

Of course, and Plantinga would heartily agree, none of this is to say that Dawkins is a lousy scientist or an unintelligent person. Either would be a ridiculous argument. But it is to say that the philosophical assumptions that guide and shape his scientific aims and stated life purpose (curious, wasn't it, how he talked about being put on earth for a purpose -- whose purpose?) are fundamentally skewed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t worry, we don&#8217;t censor comments because people disagree with us or say something we don&#8217;t like, otherwise, we could have removed your first comment and saved the trouble of this whole discussion. However, we do remove comments where readers intentionally disregard a repeated, clear request. <img src='http://www.therebelution.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>With that aside, thank you for the apology on the issue of stem cells, Burton. I appreciate that. </p>
<p>I think part of the problem you have with this article is based on a misunderstanding of what this website is all about. The Rebelution is defined as &#8220;a teenage rebellion against low expectations.&#8221; We share Eva&#8217;s story because it is an example of a young person using their teen years as a launching pad, rather than as a vacation from responsibility.</p>
<p>I would assume you don&#8217;t have a problem with any of that—the primary thrust and purpose of the article. What you do have a problem with is that we brought in God, Jesus, and the Bible as a reason for our reader&#8217;s to follow Eva&#8217;s example.</p>
<p>You claim that science and faith are diametrically opposed. Nothing could be further from the truth. Even secular scientists Whitehead and Oppenheimer said that modern science couldn&#8217;t have been born apart from the environment created by Christianity. Galileo, Copernicus, Kepler, Bacon, all the way up to Newton, Faraday, and Maxwell, ushered in the modern scientific era by understanding that there was a universe because God had made it and that because God was a reasonable God, man could discover the truth of the universe by reason.</p>
<p>So no, there is no conflict between science and Christianity, between reason and faith. The conflict here is between a biblical worldview, which believes there is a God, and naturalism, which believes there is not. Biblical Christianity provides a foundation for scientific endeavor &#8212; a reasonable God who created a reasonable world and gave us rational minds with which to accurately reason and arrive at truth. Naturalism does not provide that foundation &#8212; implying rather an unguided evolutionary process and a high unlikelihood that our cognitive faculties are consistently reliable. In that, it is a self-defeating philosophy. This isn&#8217;t to denounce the work of non-Christian scientists, only to point out that they must necessarily borrow from the Christianity to avoid the logical end of their worldview: Hume&#8217;s skepticism.</p>
<p>It is interesting that you bring up Dawkins. I watched the TED video (all 29 minutes and 22 seconds of it), and had already read detailed synopses of <i>The God Delusion</i>, which is, pretty much, the expanded version of his talk. His increasingly &#8220;religious&#8221; hatred of religion (and Christianity in particular) is far less scientific than it is personal, as well as philosophic, which certainly isn&#8217;t his forte. Alvin Plantinga, Professor of Philosophy at the University of Notre Dame, wrote about The God Delusion:</p>
<p><i>&#8220;Now despite the fact that this book is mainly philosophy, Dawkins is not a philosopher (he&#8217;s a biologist). Even taking this into account, however, much of the philosophy he purveys is at best jejune. You might say that some of his forays into philosophy are at best sophomoric, but that would be unfair to sophomores; the fact is (grade inflation aside), many of his arguments would receive a failing grade in a sophomore philosophy class.&#8221;</i> </p>
<p>Of course, and Plantinga would heartily agree, none of this is to say that Dawkins is a lousy scientist or an unintelligent person. Either would be a ridiculous argument. But it is to say that the philosophical assumptions that guide and shape his scientific aims and stated life purpose (curious, wasn&#8217;t it, how he talked about being put on earth for a purpose &#8212; whose purpose?) are fundamentally skewed.</p>
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		<title>By: Burton</title>
		<link>http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/eva-vertes-an-uncommon-passion/#comment-109579</link>
		<dc:creator>Burton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Aug 2007 10:16:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for censoring my comments.  Very classy.

But you're right, and I learned something about the differences between stem cells and embryonic stem cells.  I was channeling my ire into a place that it didn't belong.  I apologize.

You draw attention to a Princeton undergrad that is making significant strides in understanding the nature of cancer.  She is well spoken, and has some great insights to offer the field of cancer research.

What the posted article did, though, does a horrible disservice to Eva, and, indeed, to science as a whole.  To attempt to co-opt her and her work and to inspire your readers for the WRONG reasons is an example of everything that is wrong, unethical, and sad with modern Christianity.

It's time that you and your readers realized that science and faith are diametrically opposed from one another.  They define one another insofar as they are opposites.

The very definition of Faith is choosing to believe something without proof.  And the very definition of Science is refusing to believing something without proof.  I think that it's nice that you liked Eva's talk.  Just stop trying to claim her as your own, when she's clearly on the other side of the fence, on the side of reason.

And I know that you'll smugly say that you're not claiming her as your own, that you're just praying that she'll find Jesus.

Well, it's in that vein that I sincerely hope that you and your readers wake up to realize that they have been believing in a mythology, one that, I fear, is finding it's way into public policy.

I hope some of your readers will take the time to watch this talk from the TED conference, as well:  
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/113

I'm not decrying your point of view; it's just food for thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for censoring my comments.  Very classy.</p>
<p>But you&#8217;re right, and I learned something about the differences between stem cells and embryonic stem cells.  I was channeling my ire into a place that it didn&#8217;t belong.  I apologize.</p>
<p>You draw attention to a Princeton undergrad that is making significant strides in understanding the nature of cancer.  She is well spoken, and has some great insights to offer the field of cancer research.</p>
<p>What the posted article did, though, does a horrible disservice to Eva, and, indeed, to science as a whole.  To attempt to co-opt her and her work and to inspire your readers for the WRONG reasons is an example of everything that is wrong, unethical, and sad with modern Christianity.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time that you and your readers realized that science and faith are diametrically opposed from one another.  They define one another insofar as they are opposites.</p>
<p>The very definition of Faith is choosing to believe something without proof.  And the very definition of Science is refusing to believing something without proof.  I think that it&#8217;s nice that you liked Eva&#8217;s talk.  Just stop trying to claim her as your own, when she&#8217;s clearly on the other side of the fence, on the side of reason.</p>
<p>And I know that you&#8217;ll smugly say that you&#8217;re not claiming her as your own, that you&#8217;re just praying that she&#8217;ll find Jesus.</p>
<p>Well, it&#8217;s in that vein that I sincerely hope that you and your readers wake up to realize that they have been believing in a mythology, one that, I fear, is finding it&#8217;s way into public policy.</p>
<p>I hope some of your readers will take the time to watch this talk from the TED conference, as well:<br />
<a href="http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/113" rel="nofollow">http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/113</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;m not decrying your point of view; it&#8217;s just food for thought.</p>
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