Comments on: Lila Rose: Fighting for the Unborn http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/ reb•e•lu•tion (reb’el lu shen) n. a teenage rebellion against low expectations Sun, 08 Nov 2009 03:11:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7.1 hourly 1 By: Alli R http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-496369 Alli R Tue, 21 Jul 2009 23:11:27 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-496369 Eliizabeth~ you live in Washington state?? Where? i just moved to sd in november, and i really miss Wa!!!! i lived in Port Angeles:) beautiful place!! Eliizabeth~ you live in Washington state?? Where? i just moved to sd in november, and i really miss Wa!!!! i lived in Port Angeles:) beautiful place!!

]]> By: Elizabeth http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-490284 Elizabeth Sat, 27 Jun 2009 03:04:02 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-490284 Allison: Be thankful you live in SD. I reside in WA, where the "Death with Dignity" law was passed in the November election, and two people have already killed themselves with it. Call you legislators, thank them for a job well done. You are lucky to live in a place nearly devoid of liberals. Even your Democrats are conservative! Here in WA, we're stuck with an enormous rift between the two parties. We have very conservative Republicans, and very liberal Democrats. In SD, even your Democrats are usually true Christians, and therefore, oppose abortion on a moral basis. You live in a wonderful place. Allison: Be thankful you live in SD. I reside in WA, where the “Death with Dignity” law was passed in the November election, and two people have already killed themselves with it. Call you legislators, thank them for a job well done. You are lucky to live in a place nearly devoid of liberals. Even your Democrats are conservative! Here in WA, we’re stuck with an enormous rift between the two parties. We have very conservative Republicans, and very liberal Democrats. In SD, even your Democrats are usually true Christians, and therefore, oppose abortion on a moral basis. You live in a wonderful place.

]]> By: Lauren R. http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-476367 Lauren R. Sun, 17 May 2009 20:29:58 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-476367 This abortion problem in our world is sickening and saddening. How can people not see that these are living babies? This is what I hate most in America. Great job, Lila Rose, you stood up for your beliefs, and I believe that God has used you now and will again in the future. I will be praying for you. This abortion problem in our world is sickening and saddening. How can people not see that these are living babies? This is what I hate most in America.

Great job, Lila Rose, you stood up for your beliefs, and I believe that God has used you now and will again in the future. I will be praying for you.

]]> By: Rebecca http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-460232 Rebecca Mon, 23 Mar 2009 13:59:56 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-460232 Wow!!!!!!! I will definately be in prayer for Lila and for her cause!!! I have many friends who are adopted and otherwise would have been aborted. I praise God everdyday that their mother's made the right choice, but unfortunately some mothers don't make the right decision. I pray that more women will look to God for the proper answers. Wow!!!!!!! I will definately be in prayer for Lila and for her cause!!! I have many friends who are adopted and otherwise would have been aborted. I praise God everdyday that their mother’s made the right choice, but unfortunately some mothers don’t make the right decision. I pray that more women will look to God for the proper answers.

]]> By: Cynthia Jeub http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-447322 Cynthia Jeub Thu, 12 Mar 2009 21:58:11 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-447322 I second Allison's question. Do you guys all think that protesting is a good idea? I have a lot of friends who do that, but the point is very much for the sake of the babies and mothers involved, not the laws surrounding them. Slavery was abolished a LONG time ago, but it still exists and we need abolitionists. Even after abortion is abolished, there will still be babies that need to be rescued from extremists. But making abortion illegal is definitely a first step, as we'll be able to prevent the general majority of swayed mothers from killing their children. So what is a strong response to make? (and we already know of prayer. Always a good start, and one I've already begun) I second Allison’s question.
Do you guys all think that protesting is a good idea? I have a lot of friends who do that, but the point is very much for the sake of the babies and mothers involved, not the laws surrounding them. Slavery was abolished a LONG time ago, but it still exists and we need abolitionists. Even after abortion is abolished, there will still be babies that need to be rescued from extremists. But making abortion illegal is definitely a first step, as we’ll be able to prevent the general majority of swayed mothers from killing their children.

So what is a strong response to make? (and we already know of prayer. Always a good start, and one I’ve already begun)

]]> By: Jon T http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-418577 Jon T Fri, 06 Feb 2009 03:04:24 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-418577 Wow... go Lila Rose! Just to let you know, it appears the Planned Parenthood Exposed video has been removed. Wow… go Lila Rose!

Just to let you know, it appears the Planned Parenthood Exposed video has been removed.

]]> By: Jessica http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-402496 Jessica Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:35:51 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-402496 It is a noble cause Lila is working toward. It is wonderful that she cares about the unborn children and stopping abortion; as well as showing the truth about the things Planned Parenthood does that are against ethical and legal standards. I admire her for her determination to uncover the truth. As far as the discussion on whether or not the methods to uncover the truth were appropriate for a Christian, it is certainly a difficult side to choose. On one side, the Old Testament seems to instruct us to uncover the deeds of darkness. However, if indeed the means used are intentionally leading someone to a conclusion that is not true, this would go against Col.3:9 where explicitly says, "Do not lie to one another, seeing that you put off the old self with its practices, and have put on the new self, which is being renewed after the image of it's Creator." Christians are not to lie. Period. That is part of the "old self." We are to be the "new creature", following the example Christ set for us. I know the reaction to would be to rationalize. Implying that this verse is out of context, giving hypothetical examples that would make agreeing with this verse very difficult, and suchlike. But we are told to not lie. So whatever the situation, we as Christians cannot lie or deliberately mislead people. I truly don't mean to sound judgemental. Lila Rose is a courageous young woman, and I wish more young women would get involved in pro-life things. I'm only pointing out that we need to be very careful in the methods we use to go about doing things. It is a noble cause Lila is working toward. It is wonderful that she cares about the unborn children and stopping abortion; as well as showing the truth about the things Planned Parenthood does that are against ethical and legal standards.

I admire her for her determination to uncover the truth.

As far as the discussion on whether or not the methods to uncover the truth were appropriate for a Christian, it is certainly a difficult side to choose.

On one side, the Old Testament seems to instruct us to uncover the deeds of darkness.

However, if indeed the means used are intentionally leading someone to a conclusion that is not true, this would go against Col.3:9 where explicitly says, “Do not lie to one another, seeing that you put off the old self with its practices, and have put on the new self, which is being renewed after the image of it’s Creator.” Christians are not to lie. Period. That is part of the “old self.” We are to be the “new creature”, following the example Christ set for us.

I know the reaction to would be to rationalize. Implying that this verse is out of context, giving hypothetical examples that would make agreeing with this verse very difficult, and suchlike. But we are told to not lie. So whatever the situation, we as Christians cannot lie or deliberately mislead people.

I truly don’t mean to sound judgemental. Lila Rose is a courageous young woman, and I wish more young women would get involved in pro-life things. I’m only pointing out that we need to be very careful in the methods we use to go about doing things.

]]> By: Elisabeth Gruber http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-402344 Elisabeth Gruber Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:10:38 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-402344 Hey Allison, Perhaps you should consider getting involved with The Call... it's a huge nationwide prayer movement dedicated to fasting and prayer, and a big part of it is for the ending of abortion... it's definitely worth a look. They are the group with the red LIFE tape across their mouths that gather and silently pray at abortion clinics or outside court buildings. www.thecall.com Hey Allison,
Perhaps you should consider getting involved with The Call… it’s a huge nationwide prayer movement dedicated to fasting and prayer, and a big part of it is for the ending of abortion… it’s definitely worth a look. They are the group with the red LIFE tape across their mouths that gather and silently pray at abortion clinics or outside court buildings. http://www.thecall.com

]]> By: allison http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-393004 allison Wed, 07 Jan 2009 19:36:55 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-393004 Alex and Brett?? I have really been thinking about abortion lately. I really want to do something (of course I have been praying, but I want to do more!!) and I just don't know what! I have read your book a ton of times and I almost feel guilty reading about all the teen "rebelutionarys" when I am doing nothing!! I think South Dakota has a ban on abortions (which is where I live) so what can I do? I am open to anyone's idea's!!! alli Alex and Brett?? I have really been thinking about abortion lately. I really want to do something (of course I have been praying, but I want to do more!!) and I just don’t know what! I have read your book a ton of times and I almost feel guilty reading about all the teen “rebelutionarys” when I am doing nothing!! I think South Dakota has a ban on abortions (which is where I live) so what can I do? I am open to anyone’s idea’s!!!
alli

]]> By: Lyra http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-389736 Lyra Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:03:15 +0000 http://www.therebelution.com/blog/2007/05/lila-rose-fighting-for-the-unborn/#comment-389736 Giovanni: Please take my words loving correction from a fellow sister in Christ, and if I am wrong, prayerfully rebuke me. Did Lila Rose break the ninth commandment? The ninth commandments says to us, "Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour." Did Lila Rose "bear false witness" against Planned Parenthood? She presented recorded evidence - which is true testimony, not false. The ninth commandment does not forbid true testimony against a neighbour, now, does it? Now, the sixth commandment forbids killing. Yet God ordered the Israelites to kill on many occasions - they were commanded not to let a single Cannanite live (can one seriously argue that any of the Cannaanites were not "innocent"?). Can we honestly say that killing is wrong in each and every instance? If not, then can we honestly say that lying (another sin forbidden by the Bible) is? Now, don't misperceive me here. Killing and lying are both sins condemned in the Bible, and unrepentant murderers and liars will all be cast into the lake of fire (Hell). But what if are are means employed to achieve an end? You might say that the end does not justify the means. This is very true - if either the end or the means are unnecessary - then the means are sins. But I think that the exposure of groups that cover up the sexual exploitation of young girls is certainly a necessary end, and lying would be an acceptable means to achieve such an end. If Lila Rose hadn't lied about her age and her "boyfriend," do you think that she would've been able to document the very genuine evidence she did?* As for stopping someone from breaking the sixth commandment: Lila Rose wasn't doing that. She wasn't preventing murder (although I'm pretty sure she would've wanted to). She just proved that Planned Parenthood shows very little regard for the safety, health, and emotional well-being of teenage girls. As for our "bigoted" minds; well, I'm not qualified to judge the state of someone's mind. I'd rather leave that to God. But God is clear about the sixth commandment you mentioned, and He says, "Thou shalt not kill." "Killing" is defined as the taking of human life. Two objective sources - science (biology) and God's Word (the Bible) - define the unborn child, from conception and onward, as a human being. Bigotry is defined as zealous loyalty to one's own opinion(s) and intolerance to those of other people. The humanity of the unborn child is a fact, not an opinion. Abortion - the deliberate, induced killing an unborn child - is condemned by the Bible as murder. And abortion-on-demand for the sake of convenience is going to be difficult to justify - whether it is as a means or an end! *NOTE TO CHRISTIANS: You DO NOT have a license to lie. If you feel tempted to lie, ask yourself, "Why do I want to lie? For my own selfish purposes?" Be HONEST with yourself. One of the worst consequences of habitual lying is that soon, you start to believe your own lies as if they were truth! The Bible says that all liars will be cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So REPENT NOW! Giovanni:

Please take my words loving correction from a fellow sister in Christ, and if I am wrong, prayerfully rebuke me.

Did Lila Rose break the ninth commandment? The ninth commandments says to us, “Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.” Did Lila Rose “bear false witness” against Planned Parenthood? She presented recorded evidence - which is true testimony, not false. The ninth commandment does not forbid true testimony against a neighbour, now, does it?

Now, the sixth commandment forbids killing. Yet God ordered the Israelites to kill on many occasions - they were commanded not to let a single Cannanite live (can one seriously argue that any of the Cannaanites were not “innocent”?). Can we honestly say that killing is wrong in each and every instance? If not, then can we honestly say that lying (another sin forbidden by the Bible) is?

Now, don’t misperceive me here. Killing and lying are both sins condemned in the Bible, and unrepentant murderers and liars will all be cast into the lake of fire (Hell). But what if are are means employed to achieve an end?

You might say that the end does not justify the means. This is very true - if either the end or the means are unnecessary - then the means are sins. But I think that the exposure of groups that cover up the sexual exploitation of young girls is certainly a necessary end, and lying would be an acceptable means to achieve such an end. If Lila Rose hadn’t lied about her age and her “boyfriend,” do you think that she would’ve been able to document the very genuine evidence she did?*

As for stopping someone from breaking the sixth commandment: Lila Rose wasn’t doing that. She wasn’t preventing murder (although I’m pretty sure she would’ve wanted to). She just proved that Planned Parenthood shows very little regard for the safety, health, and emotional well-being of teenage girls.

As for our “bigoted” minds; well, I’m not qualified to judge the state of someone’s mind. I’d rather leave that to God. But God is clear about the sixth commandment you mentioned, and He says, “Thou shalt not kill.”

“Killing” is defined as the taking of human life. Two objective sources - science (biology) and God’s Word (the Bible) - define the unborn child, from conception and onward, as a human being.

Bigotry is defined as zealous loyalty to one’s own opinion(s) and intolerance to those of other people. The humanity of the unborn child is a fact, not an opinion. Abortion - the deliberate, induced killing an unborn child - is condemned by the Bible as murder.

And abortion-on-demand for the sake of convenience is going to be difficult to justify - whether it is as a means or an end!

*NOTE TO CHRISTIANS: You DO NOT have a license to lie. If you feel tempted to lie, ask yourself, “Why do I want to lie? For my own selfish purposes?” Be HONEST with yourself. One of the worst consequences of habitual lying is that soon, you start to believe your own lies as if they were truth! The Bible says that all liars will be cast into the lake of fire, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth. So REPENT NOW!

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