CLAUDIA WRITES: Why is it that we are separated from Christ because of Adam and Eve? Basically, why is it our fault that they sinned?
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It isn’t exactly our fault that they sinned. However, we bear the guilt of the human race because Adam as the federal head of mankind chose autonomy — not just for himself, but for all men. We bear the consequences of that choice because we are (I think I can word it this way) born into darkness, and have to be saved. Does that make sense?
I think that’s a good way to describe it. 🙂
Wow..I like a good fairy tale now and then but…Wow!
Basically, what @DannyLyn:disqus said…haha….But just to reiterate, it is NOT our FAULT they sinned…I mean, let’s face it, we weren’t exactly alive for it to be our fault…but we are born into that sinful nature and we suffer the consequences of his sin….So we aren’t separated from Christ because the original sin of Adam and Eve was our fault, we are separated from Christ because we are born with that same sinful nature and sin ourselves….so our separation from Christ is a result of our own, unavoidable, sinful nature which we are born into because of Adam and Eve’s original sin… Hope this makes sense and is helpful! =)
You know how the congress works? We elect representatives that represent our interests in congress. As humans, Adam was our representative. He sinned, just like any of us would have in the same situation. @DannyLyn:disqus and @disqus_Sh6PyJ3MsP:disqus have good things to say, too. =)
“Therefore, just as sin came into the world through one man, and death through sin, and so death spread to all men because all sinned” -Romans 5
I like how you put that 🙂
Zhank you! =P
(Is there something wrong with your keyboard?) ‘:-o
Nopesidoodles, I just like making up words. =)
Zippideedoo, you made something new! ,:-D
HA! Good one 😉
Totally agree @GuitarwithArms:disqus! I think you pretty much nailed it.
I love how Romans 5 also says, ” Therefore, as one trespass led to condemnation for all men, so one act of righteousness leads to justification and life for all men. For as by one mans disobedience THE MANY were made sinners, so by the one man’s obedience THE MANY will be made righteous.”
Adam failed at being that perfect representative but we as believers can rest assured that we have a perfect representative through Christ. 😉
Thanks! And yeah, good points! =)
As everyone else has said already, it’s not our fault that Adam and Eve sinned. @GuitarwithArms:disqus mentioned Romans 5 in his comment. 5:16 says “And the free gift is not like the result of that one man’s sin. For the judgment following one trespass brought condemnation, but the free gift following many trespasses brought justification.” Just as it isn’t our fault that Adam sinned, it isn’t our doing that Christ saved us, either. Because of His great love for us, we can be righteous before Him once again. Sin had consequences, that’s for sure. But without free will, we’d all be “I love you God” robots, faith would have no place, and true love would be foreign. God used Adam’s wrongdoing to show us His amazing love for us, and through that, we can choose Him.
Awww, I was so totally gonna upvote that until those last couple sentences. XD
Oh my gosh @GuitarwithArms:disqus! Too funny! XD
And this comment ^^^^ gets more upvotes than my original post 0_o XD
lol ikr Laura…
Looking at it know, things are ironic because I have literally upvoted every single comment on this thread that’s not mine, except for that one. Not only that but this comment I’m replying to and my Calvinist comment have gotten more likes than either her post OR mine lol.
I meant original free will, that is to say Adam’s free will which he used to disobey God, and therefore cursing all of humanity. Though I do still believe in our own free will.
Coincidentally, I actually wrote a blog post about this very thing tonight! Then I get on here and see this little discussion… 🙂
XD I believe it =P
I’ve always thought a lot about this subject. Mainly because we tend to blame Adam and Eve for eating the fruit and bringing sin into the world. But if I really think about it, I would have done the same thing. I would have given in to temptation and eaten the fruit. I think everyone would. Because of this I think its almost gracious that God gave us one punishment, even though its harsh and effects everything, and sent us away from the temptation than doing nothing and having to punish us over and over and over again.
It’s not that it’s our fault. It’s that we have inherited the fallen nature of Adam because we are children of Adam. As his descendants, we inherit his nature. So it’s not our fault that he sinned, but it impacts us drastically just the same.
Adam and Eve were the representatives of mankind. We sinned by proxy through their decision to sin. So, through one man sin came into the world and death by sin.
Adam and Eve was like a test to see if mankind can follow Gods directions so they failed
Basically put, it’s Not our fault that Adam and Eve sinned. If you were them, would you have eventually sinned? It’s a hypothetical question that we have no way of knowing. But we do know that they did sin. And through Adam death came to each of us. And each of us have also chosen to sin. And through Christ life can come to each of us who are willing to receive Him. 1 Corinthians 15 has a lot more on this. =^D
You have to remember that it was all a part of God’s plan to allow Satan to tempt Eve. God gave Adam and Eve one simple rule and of course they both broke that rule. If God hadn’t made a rule for them not to eat the “fruit” then there would have been no reason for Satan to try and tempt Eve. To be completely honest, without sin in our lives or our chance to choose God, our lives would pretty much be meaningless. We all would be like robots. What kind of a life would that be?
Here is the Skit Guys re-enacting Adam and Eve. Enjoy!