rebelling against low expectations

Interview with Kirk Cameron


In case you missed it, here is our TBN interview with Kirk Cameron — where we talk Rebelution, doing hard things, and our personal testimonies.

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Alex and Brett Harris

are the co-founders of and co-authors of Do Hard Things and Start Here. They have a passion for God and for their generation. Their personal interests include politics, filmmaking, music, and basketball. They are both graduates of Patrick Henry College in Purcellville, Virginia.


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  • Great interview. How inspiring the quote from Martin Luther King is!!!

    “If a man is called to be a street sweeper, he should sweep streets even as Michelangelo painted, or Beethoven composed music, or Shakespeare wrote poetry. He should sweep streets so well that all the hosts of heaven and earth will pause to say, here lived a great street sweeper who did his job well.”

    That makes me feel better about working in retail. Thanks Alex and Brett!

  • Excellent interview … I come away inspired every time. This is very timely as I am trying to make decisions about doing specific hard things and follow God’s call wherever He wants me to be. Many thanks.

  • Awesome interview! I definitely needed this encouragement today as I’m about to encounter quite a few ‘hard things’ for me in the next couple of weeks!

  • That was really awesome! I especially loved what y’all said about your testimony. Having become a Christian at a very early age, I have always struggled against the thought of having a “boring testimony”, and perhaps a “less impactful/unrelateable testimony”. However, I love how God is faithful to use each of our stories, because after all, it is not our stories, we are just the pages on which God chooses to write His!

  • I liked that bit about doing ordinary thing extra-ordinarily well… As one who’s head is in the clouds quite a fair bit of the time, that will help keep me grounded and not slacking so much on certain bits of school work. Ehh.

  • Thank you for posting that! Lest you think the message of doing hard things is becoming stale, or losing the brilliant luster of it’s earlier days I would beg you not to be discouraged. For me, and I am sure for many others, the message of doing all as unto the Lord and never growing comfortable or satisfied with our accomplishments never grows old. Each time I hear it I am reminded that I am not doing all that I can, and the my Saviour requires the very best that I can give. Anything less would be less than the best that He has given me by paying the price for my sin. God bless you both!

  • Thanks for this interview posting! At the risk of moving in on teen territory, I have to tell you guys, that reading Do Hard Things was inspiring for me, as someone who has been a mom for 23 years! This will be an excellent video to show to the high school youth at our church; I pray it inspires them to read your books!

  • I really enjoyed watching this. It was so good to be reminded again of the things you wrote about in your books, Alex and Brett! Thank you and God bless!

  • Thanks for posting this! It really inspired me. I also have felt something stirring in me, but I tend to not be an outspoken person. Thank you for this encouragement! Zach’s story really strikes something in me.

  • Thank you so much! I also am going on a ten week internship, and I was trying to figure out how I was going to keep my room clean, read my bible every morning, and still do every thing required of me! Thank you for encouraging me in that!

    Emily Long

  • I also like your comments on your testimony. My testimony is very different. I became a Christian when I had just turned 18 years old. I am now 19, and still pursuing Christ. It truly is a miracle the way He reaches down to us, asks us to lean on Him and enter into that relationship with Him.
    I feel like I’ve lost lost a lot of time. Lately God has been urging me to ‘do Hard Things.’ But I’ve been very frustrated over what, where, how. Your book, which I’m reading, has been very inspiring. Thank you both very much for writing it.
    I am looking forward, with God’s help, to do some very challenging things and make this 2011 the year that my life truly begins and the year I stop wasting God’s precious gift of time.

    On your comment about doing ordinary things in extrordinary ways, I’d like to share a similar quote from Mother Theresa. Although I’m not Catholic, I’m a very big fan of her.

    “There are no great things. There are only small things done with great love.”

    Again, thank you guys so very much. Be encouraged, you are touching more lives as your ministry progresses.

  • Thank you guys for obeying God in what He has given you to do. You have both been a blessing to those who hear you; but more importantly, your obedience brings Him great praise and honor.


  • That is so cool! God is using you guys in such an amazing way. I would have been freaked out! But you guys did it without hesitating. God bless

  • Thanks so uch! what a greart movie! It was so encouraging for me to hear the part about your testimony! I have a very similar one and have always thought of it as quite boring, yet what ya’ll said is so true. By HIS grace, I was saved from all of those terrible things that could’ve come my way! You two truly have a gift with words…. Thanks again for posting; and, as always, very encouraging and challenging. I will definately work on doing the ordinary, extraordinarily well!
    GOD BLESS!! (:

  • Thanks guys! Even though most of it I’ve heard tons of times before, I always come away with a refreshed inspiration after hearing it.
    I liked the part about your testimony. Mine is quite similar. I always thought that it was boring but I’ve come to realize that no matter how diverse or “boring” they seem, the Bible says that we have overcome by the blood of the Lamb and the word of our testimony. It’s powerful.

    Thanks and God bless!

  • “doing ordinary things extra-ordinary well” I’m loving it… you guys really encourage me. Thank you so much.

    I am just an ordinary girl who desire to do extra-ordinary things for God’s glory. I can still remember that desire stars when I was 16years old. But because of low-expectation not only with the people around but with self that desire just fade away. I live that dream doing nothing for almost 3years but you guys reminds me about that and encourage me to do something great and not to settle where I am now. something great not to please anyone but to please God. Great things are those simple hard things that builds me more and make become like Christ.
    If you will ask me, what hard thing I’m planning to do right now, it will be what God wants me to do. My first step is to work within me. Assuring I am in line with God. For we cannot be successful if God is not with us, and when your not in line with Him, how can God be wit you. Well. that is just my first step and Im working it right now. Next step will be I don not know for now but I am sure God will lead me to do extra-ordinary things for His glory.

  • What a wonderful, wonderful testimony of the grace and faithfulness of God, leading you both all along the way. Thank you for the encouragement and persevering mindset in turbulent times. May God continue to richly bless your labors for Him and His Kingdom.

  • “We always thought our testimony was boring.” Thank you for sharing that. I used to think that, also! Then I realized, that without God’s grace, I was going the same direction as someone ten times ‘worse’ than me! All are the same in God’s eyes!

  • Hey guys I would post this in the prayer requests section but I can’t remember my password.
    We need people to pray for Australia. Don’t know if anyone’s seen it on the news, but we have an area bigger than France and Germany combined that is underwater in devastating floods.
    Toowoomba (a city built on a mountain, where no one expects floods) had a tidal wave crash straight through the centre of town the other day, sweeping away entire houses with families still inside.
    Ten people are dead, another 100 missing, and the tolls are expected to rise.
    And it’s still raining.

  • You guys did a great job! Just btween us (an old Rush Limbaugh joke) my dad says that he think that you two speak better than Kirk Cameron. 😀 He speaks well too 😀 God bless you guys and Kirk Cameron! 😀

  • hey you guys are really awesome, this vid makes you want to put HALO: REACH down and go and help out somewhere, the only problem is where…

  • That is so awesome. You both presented yourselves so well! I’m amazed at how prepared and composed you were. I know God has used this, among other things for so much good and so just..thank-you for sharing. Everytime I hear you guys speak or even skim through “Do Hard things” again, I learn something and it’s awesome. God is good.

  • Thank you for posting the interview. As always you were articulate and inspiring. Thank you for your example.

  • I’m 14 years old and just got Do Hard Things for Christmas. I really enjoyed it and I am really inspired. This is a great interview by the way. God Bless you

  • I cannot thank you enough for the “boring testimony” comment!!!
    I was also saved at age six. With a recipe-for-disaster background (homeschooler AND pastor’s kid), I often wondered how I could witness to anyone unless I had some sort of horrible past from which I could say God miraculously saved me. Not that I would trade my family or life for anything, but at my local library I stumbled upon an “Ignite” magazine article entitled “My Boring Testimony” that was a real eye-opener to me. I’m so glad to know that I’m not the only person to have wondered about this.
    Again, thanks for the interview!

  • I think that it’s so cool that your dad had you read a big stack of books when you were sixteen. What a way to be raised- that you can be expected to do hard things by your father. It sounds like a fun and fruitful way to while away the hours. Who was the author of “The World is Flat” ? (I’ve been hunting that one down for awhile.)
    Great interview, guys. May God bless you as you Do Hard Things. 🙂

  • I really enjoyed the interview tremendously! Thank you guys so much for writing your book “Do Hard Things’ just like your older brother Joshua you inspire me and tons of others to be different, do have higher expectations, and do something no one else around has even considered doing. I love a good challenge and me being so hard headed 🙂 enjoyed your book and plan on starting to do my own ‘hard things’.

    God Bless, Jael

  • Hello – hey, it was great to SEE Alex and Brett! I read the book a couple years ago – I live in Korea (and am from Michigan). A British woman in the Philippines sold it to me. I lent my copy to my Korean niece. She loved it – and a month ago sent me the link to this interview. Great! So – your word about Do Hard Things is getting around the world. Praise the Lord. Anyway, I hadn’t seen Alex and Brett live , so this was neat to see. Keep up the good work – in the Lord, with the Lord, for the Lord.

  • i have your book and i love it! i just got it today for Easter. and i think its a great book and im probably recomend it to some people in my class! 🙂 thank you for writing this! Im not actually a teen yet but in like 2 years i will be but living with my sister iwho is about to 13 i say well i hope she reads this!! And it helps me because i feel better to know that your never to young to make a change and i would love to help the world! its inspired me to help out! THANKS Alex and Brett Harris! 🙂

  • That was really really good!! I’ve always wanted to hear you guys in person, that is so cool!!!
    I LOVE that quote be Martin Luther King!!!! and our guys quote “Doing ordinary things extraordinarily well”!!!!!

  • It is amazing what two teens can do. I’m one , so I hope this will inspire me. Just got do hard things. It’s great.

  • Thank you so much for posting that i really needed it!
    my family thinks you guys are awesome

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  • Good interview. I’m reading ‘Do Hard Things’ and it’s been a great encouragement in my life, and so I wondered ” if it has been helping me, it will help others”. So I came up with the Idea to make a club called the ‘Do Hard Things’ club, and at the moment, the idea is growing to become a development.

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